>>> We all think and act subjectively, more or less, no exceptions. But
>>> concerning the ultimate reality, the things of Eternity, as there is
>>> God, be careful what you say and write, even if you are unable or
>>> unwilling to discipline your thoughts to think along the line of
>>> 2+2=4. To all who are guilty, I say, take care that ye do not persist
>>> in denying the Holy Ghost and the power thereof.
>> Non-sequitur.
>> Fail.
>
> Joan Feynman (b. 31 March 1928) is an astrophysicist who made original
> studies of the interactions between the solar wind and the Earth's
> magnetosphere. ... In 1999 she was named as one of JPL's elite senior
> scientists and in 2000 was awarded NASA's Exceptional Achievement Medal. She
> retired from JPL as a Senior Scientist in 2003. Recently, Joan Feynman
> co-authored articles demonstrating the influence of solar activity on the
> climate of the first millenium [1].
>
> ... She is the sister of the late physicist Richard Feynman. ...
>
> References
> 1. Hirshberg, Charles (2003) 'My mother, the scientist.'
> Status, January 2003,
17-20http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Feynman
>
>
http://phy.syr.edu/PhysicsMatters/Volume2/Correspondence/JOANFEYNMANN.pdf
>
> You need not say the books of Mormonism, or the pure Gospel of Jesus Christ,
> have not come to you.
>
> 27 And it shall come in a day when the blood of saints shall cry unto the
> Lord, because of secret combinations and the works of darkness.
>
> 28 Yea, it shall come in a day when the power of God shall be denied, and
> churches become defiled and be lifted up in the pride of their hearts; yea,
> even in a day when leaders of churches and teachers shall rise in the pride
> of their hearts, even to the envying of them who belong to their churches.
>
> 29 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be heard of fires, and
> tempests, and vapors of smoke in foreign lands;
>
> 30 And there shall also be heard of wars, rumors of wars, and earthquakes in
> divers places.
>
> 31 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be great pollutions upon the
> face of the earth; there shall be murders, and robbing, and lying, and
> deceivings, and whoredoms, and all manner of abominations; when there shall
> be many who will say, Do this, or do that, and it mattereth not, for the
> Lord will uphold such at the last day. But wo unto such, for they are in the
> gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity.
>
> 32 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that
> shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your
> sins.
>
> 33 O ye wicked and perverse and stiffnecked people, why have ye built up
> churches unto yourselves to get gain? Why have ye transfigured the holy word
> of God, that ye might bring damnation upon your souls? Behold, look ye unto
> the revelations of God; for behold, the time cometh at that day when all
> these things must be fulfilled.
>
> 34 Behold, the Lord hath shown unto me great and marvelous things concerning
> that which must shortly come, at that day when these things shall come forth
> among you.
>
> 35 Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But
> behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.
>
> 36 And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts; and there are
> none save a few only who do not lift themselves up in the pride of their
> hearts, unto the wearing of very fine apparel, unto envying, and strifes,
> and malice, and persecutions, and all manner of iniquities; and your
> churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of
> your hearts.
>
> 37 For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel,
> and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy,
> the sick and the afflicted.
>
> 38 O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that
> which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God? Why are ye
> ashamed to take upon you the name of Christ? Why do ye not think that
> greater is the value of an endless happiness than that misery which never
> dies-because of the praise of the world?
>
> 39 Why do ye adorn yourselves with that which hath no life, and yet suffer
> the hungry, and the needy, and the naked, and the sick and the afflicted to
> pass by you, and notice them not?
>
> 40 Yea, why do ye build up your secret abominations to get gain, and cause
> that widows should mourn before the Lord, and also orphans to mourn before
> the Lord, and also the blood of their fathers and their husbands to cry unto
> the Lord from the ground, for vengeance upon your heads?
>
> 41 Behold, the sword of vengeance hangeth over you; and the time soon cometh
> that he avengeth the blood of the saints upon you, for he will not suffer
> their cries any longer.
>
> (Book of Mormon | Mormon 8:27 - 41)
>
> 12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, [that] when the Lord hath performed his
> whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the
> stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
>
> 13 For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done [it], and by my
> wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and
> have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a
> valiant [man]:
>
> 14 And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one
> gathereth eggs [that are] left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was
> none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.
>
> 15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? [or] shall
> the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should
> shake [itself] against them that lift it up, [or] as if the staff should
> lift up [itself, as if it were] no wood.
>
> 16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones
> leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of
> a fire.
>
> 17 And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a
> flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;
>
> 18 And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field,
> both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth.
>
> 19 And the rest of the trees of his forest shall be few, that a child may
> write them.
>
> 20 ¶ And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the remnant of Israel,
> and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon
> him that smote them; but shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel,
> in truth.
>
> 21 The remnant shall return, [even] the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty
> God.
>
> 22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, [yet] a remnant
> of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with
> righteousness.
>
> 23 For the Lord GOD of hosts shall make a consumption, even determined,
> in the midst of all the land.
>
> (Old Testament | Isaiah 10:12-23)
>
> 10 And it came to pass that when they had all given glory unto Jesus, he
> said unto them: Behold now I finish the commandment which the Father hath
> commanded me concerning this people, who are a remnant of the house of
> Israel.
>
> 11 Ye remember that I spake unto you, and said that when the words of Isaiah
> should be fulfilled-behold they are written, ye have them before you,
> therefore search them-
>
> 12 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that when they shall be fulfilled
> then is the fulfilling of the covenant which the Father hath made unto his
> people, O house of Israel.
>
> 13 And then shall the remnants, which shall be scattered abroad upon the
> face of the earth, be gathered in from the east and from the west, and from
> the south and from the north; and they shall be brought to the knowledge of
> the Lord their God, who hath redeemed them.
>
> 14 And the Father hath commanded me that I should give unto you this land,
> for your inheritance.
>
> 15 And I say unto you, that if the Gentiles do not repent after the blessing
> which they shall receive, after they have scattered my people-
>
> 16 Then shall ye, who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, go forth among
> them; and ye shall be in the midst of them who shall be many; and ye shall
> be among them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, and as a young lion
> among the flocks of sheep, who, if he goeth through both treadeth down and
> teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
>
> 17 Thy hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies
> shall be cut off.
>
> 18 And I will gather my people together as a man gathereth his sheaves into
> the floor.
>
> 19 For I will make my people with whom the Father hath covenanted, yea, I
> will make thy horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass. And thou shalt
> beat in pieces many people; and I will consecrate their gain unto the Lord,
> and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth. And behold, I am he
> who doeth it.
>
> 20 And it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that the sword of my justice
> shall hang over them at that day; and except they repent it shall fall upon
> them, saith the Father, yea, even upon all the nations of the Gentiles.
>
> 21 And it shall come to pass that I will establish my people, O house of
> Israel.
>
> 22 And behold, this people will I establish in this land, unto the
> fulfilling of the covenant which I made with your father Jacob; and it shall
> be a New Jerusalem. And the powers of heaven shall be in the midst of this
> people; yea, even I will be in the midst of you.
>
> 23 Behold, I am he of whom Moses spake, saying: A prophet shall the Lord
> your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear
> in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass
> that every soul who will not hear that prophet shall be cut off from among
> the people.
>
> 24 Verily I say unto you, yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those
> that follow after, as many as have spoken, have testified of me.
>
> 25 And behold, ye are the children of the prophets; and ye are of the house
> of Israel; and ye are of the covenant which the Father made with ...
>
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Look forget the global warming BS...forget the man made religion
BS...we have REAL PROBLEMS at out doorstep.
And this time RIGHT NOW is the defining moment as to whether most of
our population will die off or not in the crisis that awaits us in the
not so distant future.
You see, our energy dependence bill is coming do soon and we must all
chip in to pay it.
There is no 'simple or easy answer' to this issue nor is there even a
'not so simple and hard answer' to our dilemma.
The world is in a death spiral. It is just how we have built our world
over the years....too many people...and not enough supply of infinite
energy.
It would be one thing if we all reverted back to rural living, burning
trees for fuel and housing and living within our comfortable means
allotted to us by nature, as our ancestors did back in the day. But
ten billion people can't burn the trees! (Ten billion people is a
conservative estimate of world population in the not so distant
future. We are at 7 people billion now.)
The World Coal Institute estimates world energy reserves as follows:
"At current production levels coal will be available for at least the
next 155 years compared to 41 years for oil and 65 years for
gas." (See footnote #1 and #2)
http://www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=21
Even though this was written a few years ago and it is based on
'current production and consumption' it gives the same haunting
message to the generations to come.
We may not exactly see the end of our free flowing energy as we know
it - but some of our descendants will in the not so distant future.
This is the legacy they will inherit from us. But before the energy
dries up completely massive changes in our world will have taken
place.
Our population has grown to levels where it has passed the point of no
return for supporting a sustainable human population as we know it
today when it comes to their energy demands.
And leading the pack of over consumers is the USA.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_con-energy-oil-consumption
Consumption is ingrained in us and we know no other way. And even if
we wished to amend our ways, how could all our retirement funds take
the hit? America is built on borrowed money, spending and consumerism.
And what does all that consumerism lead to?
It leads to the mess we are in now and the bigger mess the world will
be in once India and China pick up momentum to copycat the envious
lifestyle that they have held in high esteem as the 'American Dream'
You see, the problem is not with the earth having enough land for all
its people - the problem is with earth providing ad infinitum for all
the needs the people crave.
The more people born, the more heat is produced from their life and
all their cravings, As such, the warmer and more polluted the earth
gets and the more energy they all use and the earths resources are
depleted.
Fueling the problem of consumption is the games the Federal and World
banks play with interest rates. They manage the economies in ways to
fuel consumption and mask the real trend. Witness the recent cries for
Federal bankers to lower interest rates...so the stock market can go
up...fueled by spending of the consumer.
It is drug habit that Greenspan got us hooked on and we just can't get
away from.
Our economy is not based on sustainable health - it is based low
interest credit to encourage compulsive spending, debt and living a
life of constant consumption with a 'disposable mentality' when it
comes to durable goods.
All this consumption to artificially fuel our economy to make our
retirement funds only go up contributes to more and more global
warming and the depletion of our natural resources. Then the
governments juggle the numbers to make the inflation figures seem
artificially low, so everyone's retirement portfolio will make them
happy so they will continue to buy and consume more...and on it
goes....IT IS ALL WE KNOW
You see, no other animal destroys its environment except mankind. We
are the only ones that do not accept and live within our comfortable
means. We not only debt with our finances we debt with our
environment. What we are borrowing in terms of petroleum, coal and
natural gas takes millions of years for nature to make. Yet we are
using it all up in just a few hundred years...we can never pay it
back.
And even if you are of a religious bent that think God created it all
6000 years ago. What took 6000 years will still be used up in a
fraction of the time it took to create it.
Some theists say we need to pray harder to God to fix our mess. Other
theists say it is Gods punishment raining down on us?
No telling since God doesn't have much to say on this topic.
See:
'Why is God silent - I don't know?'
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=504.0
The scary thing is China and India are just starting to bloom with
their demands for fossil fuels We haven't seen anything yet with the
meteoric rise of gas, energy and over consumption.
I can see how life has degenerated in recent years in many areas from
food quality to services and this is just the tip of the berg for
things to come. I am not an alarmist as one lady accused me, an
alarmist creates concern unnecessarily. No, this is a real problem
that will touch us all someday. It is not a question of if...it is
only a question of when.
Footnote #1:
Something to think about is coals dependence on crude. Our crude oil
(41 years of reserves) will be depleted much sooner than our coal (155
years of reserves) This brings up certain problems of production and
distribution. For instance, coal is delivered to power plants by rail.
The trains are powered by diesel fuel, which is made from crude oil.
Now, we may be able to resort back to old technology and start running
coal fired steam locomotives to deliver the coal, but this will have a
negative effect on the green house gas emissions. But even before the
coal can be delivered it has to be mined and processed...and most of
that mining is powered by crude as well.
http://www.coaleducation.org/lessons/twe/mcoal.htm
Footnote #2
When we see such estimates of 41 years for our crude oil, there are
many things to consider in such estimates. The first thing is
estimates are notorious for not being accurate since it is a
speculation of the unknown mixed with the relatively known. For
instance, in the 1970,s they estimated crude supply to be gone in 20
years and that prediction was wrong.
The next thing is even if 41 years was accurate. It does not mean we
can drive up to the pump to fill'er up the last day of the 41 year
estimated life span of crude. Many of our foreign suppliers will have
decided to keep their production for themselves as they need it at
home. And far before we see the end of crude, the government would
have confiscated most of the US crude supplies and refining capacity
for national security and that is how it should be. We will be lucky
to get a gallon or two of allotted gas for each of us now and again to
fire up our Vespa's or more likely 50cc Chinese clone.
Without energy our country is open for takeover ... no jets...no
tanks...no transport on the ground or in the air. Luckily we will
still have nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers as long as
the uranium holds out. But the jets on the flattop all use jet fuel.
All the supplies for those subs and carriers petroleum dependent. So
long before the crude dries up the government must 'secure a supply'
of crude for it own needs.
Other countries such as Russia that have a good supply of crude may
not be so kind to keep on selling it to us and we need a 'local and
continual' source somewhat within our borders. You see, jet fuel as
well as gasoline deteriorates and cannot be stored indefinitely. So we
must always be producing some of it to replace the stale stuff to
supply the military. But, that's why we elect politicians to deal with
these troubles.
See:
http://www.algore.org/forum/draft_gore_2008_campaign/gore_groups/be_one_vp_gore_...
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105221
http://www.amazon.com/Out-Gas-End-Age-Oil/dp/0393058573
http://www.amazon.com/Hubberts-Peak-Impending-World-Shortage/dp/0691116253
http://www.lastoilshock.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%%3F
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
http://www.algore.org/forum/al_gore_news_and_events/gores_work_combat_climate_cr...
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
