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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 22, 2008 19:15

On Apr 22, 6:35 pm, "Xarx" neoncity.com> wrote:
> The only human we met during our time on Earth that we liked was Sir
> Frederick.
>
> We will tell you why we like Sir Frederick.
>
> In the primitive and very archaic state of humans and their stories and their
> gods and religions and angels and gods and whoever - it would be impossible
> for you to "know" anything.
> So we cannot stand "know it alls" or those who claim to "know" anything - as
> to us you merely look completely ridiculous - as what any of you do claim to
> "know" is the cause of great mirth and laughter when you do see humans the
> way we do.
>
> Sir Frederick does not claim to "know" anything.
> All he asks is for someone to GIVE him meaning.
> To ANSWER his questions.
>

I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I
know nothing.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Socrates

Why did his pupils reverence him so? Perhaps because he was a man as
well as a philosopher: he had at great risk saved the life of
Alcibiades in battle; and he could drink like a gentleman-without fear
and without excess. But no doubt they liked best in him the modesty of
his wisdom: he did not claim to have wisdom, but only to seek it
lovingly; he was wisdom's amateur, not its professional. It was said
that the oracle at Delphi, with unusual good sense, had pronounced him
the wisest of the Greeks; and he had interpreted this as an approval
of the agnosticism which was the starting-point of his philosophy-"One
thing only I know, and that is that I know nothing." Philosophy begins
when one learns to doubt-particularly to doubt one's cherished
beliefs, one's dogmas and one's axioms. Who knows how these cherished
beliefs became certainties with us, and whether some secret wish did
not furtively beget them, clothing desire in the dress of thought?
There is no real philosophy until the mind turns round and examines
itself. Gnothi seauton, said Socrates: Know thyself.

There had been philosophers before him, of course: strong men like
Thales and Heraclitus, subtle men like Parmenides and Zeno of Elea,
seers like Pythagoras and Empedocles; but for the most part they had
been physical philosophers; they had sought for the physis or nature
of external things, the laws and constituents of the material and
measurable world. That is very good, said Socrates; but there is an
infinitely worthier subject for philosophers than all these trees and
stones, and even all those stars; there is the mind of man. What is
man, and what can he become?

The Story of Philosophy
The Lives and Opinions of the Great Philosophers of the Western World
by WILL DURANT
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671739166/
> And all he gets is a load of crap crap crap from other humans.
> Fletcher claiming that matter is liquid and what it is all about is a cosmic
> conscious - Mark Earnest claiming to know all about matter as he is pals with

...a sack of bones and blood stitched together

please go to mile marker 2:33 (Two minutes and thirty three seconds
into the video) and see if you can tell me what he says, I cannot
figure it all out.

...fragilistic syndrome device

...digitized convulsing nueralastic plasma screen demographic ????? is
not alive

Katscan - Zombie Machine
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L_CqOd1zSxc
> Elohim the Jewish god no less and various other humans with various other
> opinions some also they claim to get from Elohim the Jewish god or angels
> that they KNOW TO BE TRUE!  (And all differing we would add!)
> And Sir Frederick suffers this constant outpouring of CRAP from other humans
> and angels and gods and goodness knows who else and seems to have done for
> many years.
>
> Your system and your world and your continuance methods and your religions
> and stories are your own.
> We could give Sir Frederick answers but why should we?
> He is not interested in learning answers that you and your angels and gods
> and whoever else will not discover until eons have passed.
>
> The stupidity of humans is so evident - but you cannot see this yourselves.
> At you look far more stupid when you claim to "know" stupid stuff than
> someone like Sir Frederick who questions.
> It really is the likes of Sir Frederick - who seek more and beyond and who
> will not and can not settle for answers that please other stupid crap humans
> that will lead the way forward.
> Rather than those stuck with closed minds and wallowing in easily obtained
> answers of herd mentality that show obvious bad taste and inferior
> intelligence and basically - complete lack of imagination - dullness and
> stupidity.
> Sir Frederick will never be happy with any of your answers.
> You know why?
> Maybe when billions of years have passed - and you are at the stage we are
> now - you will "know" why!  :)
> Xarx of Borg
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