James A. Donald wrote:

Perhaps you need to be acquainted with the American version of
Fundamentalist Christianity. By and large the right wing fringe is pro
fundie Christian and card carrying members of the NRA. Even looking at my
extended family, those who are adamantly Christian are pro gun, and all NRA
members.

You inability to discern truth is apparent with your pro fundie approach to
religious matters, faith in the bible, anti-gay rhetoric, pro gun stance
and your readiness to lie (for instance claiming you are a militant atheist
a term only used by rabid fundies).

You for one. The rabid extreme Christian right controlling the agenda for
the Republican Party.

WHERE? Everything you have written from supporting the fundie dates of the
bible to the authenticity of the Petrine epistles is purely a Christian and
particularly a fundie Christian position. Are you the only person who
cannot see that?

Look at those writers that could plausibly be called contemporaries of
Joshua of the New Testament, looking at what they wrote, and mysterious
have not a word of mentioned about your Jesus:

Seneca, 4 BCE - 65 CE Rome’s most prominent writer on ethics, philosophy,
morals, natural scientist who tracked eclipses & quakes; Alleged
correspondence between Paul and Seneca was later exposed as fraudulent.

Pliny the Elder, 23-79 CE Natural History 37 books on natural events such as
earthquakes, eclipse and healing.

Quintilian 39-96 CE authored Instituio Oratio 12 books on morals and virtue.

Epictetus 55-135 CE, former slave became a recognized moralist, philosopher
wrote about the "brotherhood of man" and the importance of helping the poor
and oppressed.

Martial 38-103CE Poet, wrote epic poems about human foibles and the diverse
characters of Roman Empire

Juvenal, 55 - 127 CE Rome’s most powerful satirical poet, wrote about
injustice and tragedy in Roman government

Plutarch, 46 - 119 CE Greek, traveled Rome to Alexandria, wrote Moralia on
morals and ethics.

And as Lee Salisbury writes on his site
(http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2002/03/historys-troubling-silence-about-jesus...):

"Philo-Judaeus(look under "Hellenistic Judaism: Religious Development" at
this link), 15 BCE - 50 CE of Alexandrian, a Greek speaking Jewish
theologian-philosopher, who personally knew Jerusalem because of relatives
living there; wrote extensively on Jewish history and religion from a Greek
perspective; and taught the following concepts: God and His Word are one;
the Word is the first-begotten Son of God; God created the world thru His
Word; God holds all things together thru His Word; the Word is the fountain
of eternal life; the Word dwells in and among us; all judgment is committed
to God’s Word; and the Word never changes. Philo also taught on God as
Spirit, the Trinity, the virgin birth, Jews who sin will go to hell,
Gentiles who come to God will be saved and go to heaven, a God of love and
forgiveness. Yet, Philo, a Jew in nearby Alexandria, who would have been a
contemporary of Jesus never once mentions anybody named Jesus nor any
miracle worker being crucified and resurrected in Jerusalem, let alone an
eclipse, an earthquake, or Jews being resurrected from their graves. Why?
Philo’s silence about Jesus is deafening!"

Does anyone else who read that sentence of James agree with James that he
rejects Christianity? I doubt that we will see even one person agree with
you. You are too obviously a Fundie Christian. You even use their
buzzwords.

You hit no nerve at all. But it is rather a well known point that Fundie
Christians HATE THE COMMIES. And there you are, using them as the
boogeyman just like a good little Christian Fundie.

Bullshit, much of American history is filled with lies. I can't speak on
British history because I was not raised in their educational system.

Wait a minute. If everyone who knew the truth was murdered, how do you know
so much about it?

You contradict yourself. You just said everyone who knew about it was
murdered. So who is left to tell this great hidden truth? And aren't you
afraid they (whoever they is) are going to come after you because you know
this truth that nobody else knows except the murdered cognoscenti?

How can anyone knowingly lie when those who know it are murdered? What is
to know? Who is left to tell it?

No, I didn't get indignant at all. I just thought it was ironic that you
claim not to be a fundie Christian yet you blather one more nonsentical
item from the Fundie agenda. But you can't appreciate the irony in that.

I merely point out that there is no contemporary evidence for Joshua of the
New Testament. Nor of the apostles, nor of Paul. And you haven't
presented any either. If it was so believeable that the man existed, it
should be easy for you to point out that evidence.

I believe in no religion.

You are too funny. But your charge is exactly one I would expect to be
levied by a Fundie Christian. Look at McCarthyism, you would make a good
sock puppet for him. And the sad part is that you don't know that yours is
an accusation levied any anyone a fundie disagrees with. With every
sentence you write you scream out to the world that you are a pig ignorant
Fundie. (I take that back, some pigs seem smarter.)

--
Later,
Darrell Stec darstec@neo.rr.com

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