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Author: Roger JohanssonRoger Johansson Date: Mar 13, 2007 17:09
On Mar 13, 10:42 pm, BrunoR nyc.rr.com> wrote:
.>> You think you understand how the money system works?
>> Watch this truly shocking expose:
>> It is mind-boggling beyond belief - just watch it..
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> To drive home the point the video should be edited to 1/10 th of its
> content.
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It could have been 10 times longer, covering more countries, and it
could have included other main factors behind many historical events.
They say in this movie that this is not the only factor behind
historical events, but a very important side of what has happened in
world history, and I agree.
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> It could be that the 'Money Masters' had their population's *best ...
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Author: Roger JohanssonRoger Johansson Date: Mar 13, 2007 18:24
>> It is mind-boggling beyond belief - just watch it..
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The american people have been used and abused, and horrible things
have been done behind its back.
http://www.killinghope.org/
"Killing Hope: US Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II.
by William Blum
"I bought several more copies to circulate to
friends with the hope of shedding new light
and understanding on their political outlooks."
Oliver Stone
"A very valuable book. The research and organization
are extremely impressive."
A. J. Langguth, author, former New York Times Bureau Chief
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Author: Roger JohanssonRoger Johansson Date: Mar 16, 2007 06:09
On Mar 16, 3:57 am, Publius nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> Liberty = each person rules himself.
So you support my program?
It gives everybody a maximum of freedom. All work is voluntary, and
everybody will have the same amount of property and are allowed to
consume food and clothes without paying for it, no matter what they
do.
You cannot design a more free society, where each individual has a
maximum of liberty, than in the model I suggest.
> Each person is an autonomous individual, not a cell, and societies ("the
> people") are free associations of such individuals, not organisms.
In my model everybody are free to join any group or workplace they
want.
They will not be forced through the need for money or the need for
material necessities like food and housing.
> "People's democracy" is no fun when all the productive people have left. No
one is left to steal from.
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Author: galathaeagalathaea Date: Mar 16, 2007 10:12
On Mar 15, 6:57 pm, Publius nospam.comcast.net> wrote:>>>> When enough people have agreed on a vision of the future society we
>>>> can win the election and start realizing that vision.
>>> Sorry, Roger, but people may not choose the kind of society in which
>>> they live,
>> I know you do not like democracy, but fact is that we live in a
>> democracy, and when enough people want to change it we can change it.
>> Democracy = the people rules itself.
>
> Liberty = each person rules himself.
>
> Each person is an autonomous individual, not a cell, and societies ("the
> people") are free associations of such individuals, not organisms. When
> democracy begins to...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Mar 20, 2007 06:43
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:06:23 -0700, Roger Johansson wrote:
> Write down your own vision, and compare it with others, develop your
> vision when you get new ideas or when people make you realize that
> something in your vision is not such a good idea.
My vision is simply this. Take the profit out of war, take the profit out
of elections. Whatever follows will trend towards real betterment.
> We are all waiting for the american people to become intelligent enough
> to take control of their own government and military forces.
Intelligence has little to do with it now. I am in Ohio and it is certain
that the last two Presidential elections were frauds as was the last
mid-term election. While many Americans have a almost prideful ignorance
of the outside world, many know how corrupt government is and has been for
more than a generation now. The military is a 300lb gorilla but at the
heart of it all.
Sorry, it is you guys who are going to have to carry the ball on this one.
What it will take here is too ugly, for now anyway.
DON'T WAIT UP !! START THE PARTY WITHOUT US!!
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Author: crushdboxcrushdbox Date: Apr 15, 2007 04:19
> On Mar 15, 9:02 pm, Publius nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
> .>>> When enough people have agreed on a vision of the future society we
>>> can win the election and start realizing that vision.
> .
>> Sorry, Roger, but people may not choose the kind of society in which
they
>> live,
> .
> I know you do not like democracy, but fact is that we live in a
> democracy, and when enough people want to change it we can change it.
> Democracy = the people rules itself.
> .
>> except by moving to a different one if they don't like their present
>> one, or by withdrawing from it altogether.
> .
> That is an option for you, who do not like democracy.
> ...
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Author: Global WarmingGlobal Warming Date: Jul 11, 2007 08:41
> On Mar 13, 10:42 pm, BrunoR nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> .>>> You think you understand how the money system works?
>>> Watch this truly shocking expose:
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Author: Roger JohanssonRoger Johansson Date: Jul 11, 2007 12:59
On Jul 11, 5:41 pm, Global Warming spam.net> wrote:
> Hey,..Roger
>
> Did you notice how this subject has become so muddled?
Everything gets muddled in a very confused world full of anger and
hate.
But a few people can think clearly enough to find the pearls and
preserve and spread them further.
> Looking at this thread today (7/11/07) , it seems as if the cyberworld
> had some difficulty in digesting some of the ideas, thoughts and typed
> words, fortunately some of us-we those people managed to make copies of
> the video and will make it available for the squeamish and the late
> bloomers.
I will help making it available too.
If we can keep a vision of a better world alive and available it will
find more supporters, slowly but surely.
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