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The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 7, 2008 10:57

Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the book
"Is Objectivism a Religion?" by Albert Ellis?
http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Bibliography_of_work_on_Objectivism
'Ellis, Albert. Is Objectivism a Religion? (New York: Lyle Stuart,
Inc., 1968).
Ellis's answer to his titular question is Yes. In effect he regards
Objectivism
as a sort of Puritanism without God, on the grounds that it is a
"dogmatic,
fanatical, absolutist, anti-empirical, people-condemning creed". '
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 8, 2008 08:20

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:21:19 -0800 (PST), chazwin yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Jan 7, 6:57 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the book
>> "Is Objectivism a Religion?" by Albert Ellis?http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Bibliography_of_work_on_Obje...
>> 'Ellis, Albert. Is Objectivism a Religion? (New York: Lyle Stuart,
>> Inc., 1968).
>> Ellis's answer to his titular question is Yes. In effect he regards
>> Objectivism
>> as a sort of Puritanism without God, on the grounds that it is a
>> "dogmatic,
>> fanatical, absolutist, anti-empirical, people-condemning creed". '
>
>Sounds just like M Gordge.
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: John Graeme
Date: Jan 8, 2008 09:32

On Jan 7, 1:57 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the book
> "Is Objectivism a Religion?" by Albert Ellis?http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Bibliography_of_work_on_Obje...
> 'Ellis, Albert. Is Objectivism a Religion? (New York: Lyle Stuart,
> Inc., 1968).
> Ellis's answer to his titular question is Yes. In effect he regards
> Objectivism
> as a sort of Puritanism without God, on the grounds that it is a
> "dogmatic,
> fanatical, absolutist, anti-empirical, people-condemning creed". '

It's bizarre to call it a religion. Rand was an atheist! Probably so
are most Objectivists.
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Jan 8, 2008 13:25

On Jan 9, 2:32 am, John Graeme my-deja.com> wrote:
> It's bizarre to call it a religion.  Rand was an atheist!  Probably so
> are most Objectivists.

Kantians are required to have several definitions for each and every
concept known to man, including for god, religion and objectivist.

It enables Kantains to have anything mean anything they want and need
it to mean, thereby nothing means anything, it enables Kantians to
always be right and the other person always wrong.

Kantian chazzzzzzz will confirm this, because he's one of the honest
ones, which only means honesty is an over-rated virtue for Kantians, I
digress, chazzzz says and I quote goose-brains "the truth has many
definitions and philosophic meanings" now imagine how easy that makes
it for chazzz to claim he's always telling the truth? Bizarre but
true, eh chazzzz?

He hasn't worked out that for him to claim he is telling the truth,
that he, and by his very own standard, is saying, that what he says
has many definitions and philosophic meanings, NOW HOW HANDY IS THAT?
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Jan 8, 2008 13:35

On Jan 9, 1:20 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> The present generation of Randroids has shown
> us the four-letter-word...

I've also shown you how silly Kant is with his trash of "not knowing
things in themselves" therefore not even being able to know what that
thing (subject) in itself.

You DID say "subjects are objects" didn't you Melonhead? meaning
objects are subjects.

Why dont you want to talk about that?

I've also asked chazzzzz what colour does he reckon his idea is that
my ideas are black and white?

Why dont you want to talk abot that?

I've also pointed out to chazzzzz that his idea that "the truth has
many definitions and philosophic meanings" must be able to be applied
to itself to be true. Why dont you want to talk about that?

Why do you only want to talk about "fuck" and "god"?

Michael Gordge
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Jan 7, 2008 17:43

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:21:19 -0800 (PST), chazwin yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Jan 7, 6:57 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the book
>> "Is Objectivism a Religion?" by Albert Ellis?http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Bibliography_of_work_on_Obje...
>> 'Ellis, Albert. Is Objectivism a Religion? (New York: Lyle Stuart,
>> Inc., 1968).
>> Ellis's answer to his titular question is Yes. In effect he regards
>> Objectivism
>> as a sort of Puritanism without God, on the grounds that it is a
>> "dogmatic,
>> fanatical, absolutist, anti-empirical, people-condemning creed". '
>
>Sounds just like M Gordge.

Yes, although in the beginning they gave it a veneer of philosophy,
calling people 'parasites' and 'mystics of muscle.' The present
generation of Randroids has shown us the four-letter-word mud-slinging
mentality that lay behind the pretense of intellect.
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 8, 2008 20:30

On Jan 8, 10:32 am, John Graeme my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 1:57 pm, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Does anybody know where I can find a copy of the book
>> "Is Objectivism aReligion?" by Albert Ellis?http://wikipedia.cas.ilstu.edu/index.php/Bibliography_of_work_on_Obje...
>> 'Ellis, Albert. Is Objectivism aReligion? (New York: Lyle Stuart,
>> Inc., 1968).
>> Ellis's answer to his titular question is Yes. In effect he regards
>> Objectivism
>> as a sort of Puritanism without God, on the grounds that it is a
>> "dogmatic,
>> fanatical, absolutist, anti-empirical, people-condemning creed". '
>
> It's bizarre to call it areligion. Rand was an atheist! Probably so
> are most Objectivists.

"That doesn't matter. You're a profoundly religious man, Mr. Roark
--in your own way. I can see that in your buildings."

He wondered why Roark [atheist] stared at him like that, without
moving, for such a long time.
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 8, 2008 20:31

On Jan 8, 2:25 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2:32 am, John Graeme my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>> It's bizarre to call it areligion. Rand was an atheist! Probably so
>> are most Objectivists.
>
> Kantians are required to have several definitions for each and every
> concept known to man, including for god,religionand objectivist.

"That doesn't matter. You're a profoundly religious man, Mr. Roar
--
in your own way. I can see that in your buildings."
He wondered why Roark stared at him like that, without moving,
for such a long time.
"That's true," said Roark.
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 8, 2008 20:38

On Jan 8, 2:35 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 1:20 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> The present generation of Randroids has shown
>> us the four-letter-word...
>
> I've also shown you how silly Kant is with his trash of "not knowing
> things in themselves" therefore not even being able to know what that
> thing (subject) in itself.
>
> You DID say "subjects are objects" didn't you Melonhead? meaning
> objects are subjects.
>
> Why dont you want to talk about that?
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Re: The Link between Objectivism and Religion         


Author: malenoid
Date: Jan 8, 2008 20:41

On Jan 8, 2:35 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 1:20 am, malen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> The present generation of Randroids has shown
>> us the four-letter-word...

...mud-slinging mentality that lay behind the pretense of intellect.

Snippy.
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