Re: The illusion of the principle of 'victimless crimes'
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Re: The illusion of the principle of 'victimless crimes'         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 13, 2008 20:52

On Aug 14, 12:30 pm, Shrikeb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 13, 7:27 pm, Shrikeb...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Aug 13, 7:10 pm, T-minus108 gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 13, 9:35 pm, Shrikeb...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>>> On Aug 13, 5:10 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Often proclaimed by drinkers and drug takers.
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>>>> And fags, and nudists, and whoremongers, and
>>>> those who don't want to be told what to eat, even
>>>> if it's beef (or pork), and those who oppose every
>>>> sort of paternailist or maternalistic nannygoat
>>>> state-mongers.
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>>>>> Waddya think?
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>>>> I think the real crime in this country is when whatever
>>>> brand of nannygoat manages to become fashionable
>>>> exacts its draconian desire to rule the private lives of
>>>> others by instituting whatever prohibitionism they
>>>> favor.
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>>>> "The nannygoat is the worst sort of tyrant, because
>>>> unlike the selfish tyrant, who becomes sated eventually,
>>>> the nannygoat will never leave you alone, because the
>>>> nannygoat tyrannizes you for your own good."
>>>> -paraphrase of C.S. Lewis
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>>> Eactly how is being gay concidered a crime? Furthermore, how does
>>> being gay hurt someone?
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>> Exactly my point.  It is a victimless crime.
>> It was only in recent decades that it ceased to be a crime
>> even in the UK.  Alan Turing, of Turing Machine fame, killed
>> himself after being arrested for the crime of homosexuality
>> and being offered the choice of prison (where he would no doubt
>> be mistreated badly) and some hormone "treatments" that were
>> akin to chemical castration and would have eventually caused
>> him to grow tits.
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>> Anyway, I wanted to bring up other examples of victimless
>> crimes.  That's all.  A victimless crime is none of the State's
>> business.  That just flows from the founding principles of
>> liberal democracy.- Hide quoted text -
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> Perhaps I should have put it, "victimless crimes are
> not real crimes at all, and thus not the business of
> the State."
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> Anyway, I am sure you and I agree on that point.  It
> seems Big Fletch (and many others) disagree on the
> same principle when it comes to drinking, smoking,
> or drugs.- Hide quoted text -
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You misread me. If you want to go into a private room and do whatever
you wish, secretively where the effect of your behaviour does not
impact others, as in my example of mother/daughter relationship, it is
onlythen, truly victimless.

btw, to give you an insight into my insight regarding drugs, give me a
heroin addicted surgeon than an alchoholic one anyday.

Of course, this doesnt take into account the reason for the 'alcoholic
gene'. Some would suggest it is passed on, as with many genetic
inheritances.

How would you like to carry the karma of Arthur Guinness :-))).....

BOfL
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