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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: bigfletch8
Date: Sep 8, 2008 01:14

On Sep 5, 4:34 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 11:22 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>> On Sep 5, 2:04 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Sep 4, 10:30 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>>>> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational,
>>>> brutal, weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his
>>>> wn interests are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in
>>>> the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true picture of
>>>> him. And any attempt to create social institutions on a false view of
>>>> the nature of man is probably doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick
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>>>> This is such a great quote.
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>>>> Let us remember that:
>>>> "**ANY** attempt to create social institutions on a false view of the
>>>> nature of man is probably doomed to failure."
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>>>> And that includes other nations...
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>>>> And that we should be:
>>>> "interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a
>>>> true picture of him."
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>>>> dot dot dot
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>>> If these behaviors are parts of our nature and there are other less
>>> violent parts of our nature why are some parts of our nature good and
>>> others bad?
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>> Why is there good and bad?
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>> There is good and bad because we're "conscious".
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> So we should build our society around the good and bad in man and
> woman in a honest way.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Honest to the group consciousness is not neccesarily honest to the
individual consciousness.

Comes back the eternal mathematical illusion of 'aggregate', being a
compromise. '1' being the only reality.

BOfL
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