On Sep 5, 4:40Â pm, turtoni
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>>> On Sep 4, 11:22 pm, turtoni
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>>> On Sep 5, 2:04 am, Immortalist
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>>>> On Sep 4, 10:30 pm, turtoni
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>>>>> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational,
>>>>> brutal, weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his
>>>>> wn interests are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in
>>>>> the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true picture of
>>>>> him. And any attempt to create social institutions on a false view of
>>>>> the nature of man is probably doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick
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>>>>> This is such a great quote.
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>>>>> Let us remember that:
>>>>> "**ANY** attempt to create social institutions on a false view of the
>>>>> nature of man is probably doomed to failure."
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>>>>> And that includes other nations...
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>>>>> And that we should be:
>>>>> "interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a
>>>>> true picture of him."
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>>>>> dot dot dot
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>>>> If these behaviors are parts of our nature and there are other less
>>>> violent parts of our nature why are some parts of our nature good and
>>>> others bad?
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>>> Why is there good and bad?
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>>> There is good and bad because we're "conscious".
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>> So we should build our society around the good and bad in man and
>> woman in an honest way.
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So none of us are honest eh.....
Try this on for size.
At the deeper level, everyone is honest, even if they are not acting
with conscious awareness (one definition of limited consciousness).
They may think they are fooling someone, but thats just a temporary
state, where everything balances up, giving an 'honest" outcome...Fact
is, they are lying to themselves, because they have not yet learned
how perfectly balanced life is, and everyone has to learn that....and
as usual , experience is the only teacher.
Honestly .....
BOfL
