> On Sep 5, 2:34 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Sep 4, 11:22 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>> On Sep 5, 2:04 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:

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>>>> On Sep 4, 10:30 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

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>>>>> "Man isn't a noble savage, he's an ignoble savage. He is irrational,
>>>>> brutal, weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his
>>>>> wn interests are involved - that about sums it up. I'm interested in
>>>>> the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a true picture of
>>>>> him. And any attempt to create social institutions on a false view of
>>>>> the nature of man is probably doomed to failure." - Stanley Kubrick

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>>>>> This is such a great quote.

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>>>>> Let us remember that:
>>>>> "**ANY** attempt to create social institutions on a false view of the
>>>>> nature of man is probably doomed to failure."

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>>>>> And that includes other nations...

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>>>>> And that we should be:
>>>>> "interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it's a
>>>>> true picture of him."

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>>>>> dot dot dot

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>>>> If these behaviors are parts of our nature and there are other less
>>>> violent parts of our nature why are some parts of our nature good and
>>>> others bad?

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>>> Why is there good and bad?

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>>> There is good and bad because we're "conscious".

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>> So we should build our society around the good and bad in man and
>> woman in an honest way.

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> The word "man" is a placeholder for "people".
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> Honest is too subjective. None of us are "honest".
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> We need law and order.