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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Sep 19, 2007 22:39
Which was the active ingredient in "kykeion".
"The Road to Eleusis" by Wasson includes a report by Albert Hoffman of
Sandoz labs telling Wasson what he had stumbled onto.
Yes, Kykeion was made with barley, but it was infected with Claviceps
Purpurea, (ergot) which has lotsa lysergic acids. Even today, midwives
use a potion of ergot grown on another plant to cause dramatically
stronger uterine contractions during delivery.
Course, the ergot can be used anytime to cause a miscarriage; 1st,
2nd, or 3rd trimester. No appointment, no protester line, no adoption
sermon, no parental consent, and no problems with pharmacists.
Miscarriage on demand. Legal.
But anyway, Wasson shows that Kykeion was used during Komos at the
famous Eleusinian Mysteries. Which explains a lot about why none of
the Greek Philosophers were atheist.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Sep 19, 2007 22:59
On Sep 20, 1:39 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:> Which was the active ingredient in "kykeion".
> "The Road to Eleusis" by Wasson includes a report by Albert Hoffman of
> Sandoz labs telling Wasson what he had stumbled onto.
>
> Yes, Kykeion was made with barley, but it was infected with Claviceps
> Purpurea, (ergot) which has lotsa lysergic acids. Even today, midwives
> use a potion of ergot grown on another plant to cause dramatically
> stronger uterine contractions during delivery.
>
> Course, the ergot can be used anytime to cause a miscarriage; 1st,
> 2nd, or 3rd trimester. No appointment, no protester line, no adoption
> sermon, no parental consent, and no problems with pharmacists.
> Miscarriage on demand. Legal.
>
> But anyway, Wasson shows that Kykeion was used during Komos...
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Sep 19, 2007 23:55
> Which explains a lot about why none of
> the Geek Philosophers were atheist.
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Author: turtoniturtoni Date: Sep 20, 2007 00:05
On Sep 20, 2:55 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:>> Which explains a lot about why none of
>> the Geek Philosophers were atheist.
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Author: chazwinchazwin Date: Sep 20, 2007 00:52
This is pretty old stuff actually. The ergot fungus has been know to
have been know to the ancient world for a very long time. Medical
recipes containing grains of ergot can be found in the Papyrus Ebers
and in the works of Discorurides, but then so can many other wierd
things including ink and baby mice.
Whether or not it was used in the Greek mystery religions is unknown.
The whole point about the mystery religions is that they were kept
"MYSTERIOUS". So, we know little about the practices. Many have
speculated opon which drugs may or may not have been used.
There is a certian amount of evidence of the use of mushrooms from
dpeictions of women watering phalluses on black attic pottery, and of
course Herodotus mentions the use of Cannabis amongst the barbarians.
But what you say Hoffman has...
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Date: Sep 20, 2007 11:44
> [...] Which explains a lot about why none of
> the Greek Philosophers were atheist.
B U L L S H I T
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Sep 20, 2007 12:55
On Sep 20, 2:44 pm, "pico" wrote:>> [...] Which explains a lot about why none of
>> the Greek Philosophers were atheist.
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> B U L L S H I T
You care to cite a Greek philosopher trying to prove atheism, or do
you just want us to take your word for it?
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Date: Sep 20, 2007 13:45
> On Sep 20, 2:44 pm, "pico" wrote:>>> [...] Which explains a lot about why none of
>>> the Greek Philosophers were atheist.
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>> B U L L S H I T
> You care to cite a Greek philosopher trying to prove atheism, or do
> you just want us to take your word for it?
I misread. Sorry about that. (Bad On Me).
However, there is certain disagreement upon what religion was to the Ancient
Greeks. A social practice that seems religious is not necessary what we
would call religion today. It's an issue of creed.
Regardless, I do apologize for my poor reading of your post.
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Author: brian fletcherbrian fletcher Date: Sep 20, 2007 16:12
> This is pretty old stuff actually. The ergot fungus has been know to
> have been know to the ancient world for a very long time. Medical
> recipes containing grains of ergot can be found in the Papyrus Ebers
> and in the works of Discorurides, but then so can many other wierd
> things including ink and baby mice.
> Whether or not it was used in the Greek mystery religions is unknown.
> The whole point about the mystery religions is that they were kept
> "MYSTERIOUS". So, we know little about the practices. Many have
> speculated opon which drugs may or may not have been used.
> There is a certian amount of evidence of the use of mushrooms from
> dpeictions of women watering phalluses on black attic pottery, and of
> course Herodotus mentions the use of Cannabis amongst the barbarians.
> But what you say Hoffman has "stumbled onto" is no mystery and nothing
> new to scholars of ancient religion.
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> On Sep 20, 6:39 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote: ...
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Author: chazwinchazwin Date: Sep 21, 2007 01:14
On Sep 20, 5:37 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:> On Sep 20, 3:52 am, chazwin yahoo.com> wrote:> Er... how?
>>> What about Diagoras, Critias, Democritas, Prodicus, Protagoras, and
>> Theodorus? All atheists.
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> Who is Diagoras?
Diagoras the Atheist of Melos was a Greek poet and sophist of the 5th
century BC. He became an atheist after an incident that happened
against him went unpunished by the gods. He spoke out against the
orthodox religions, and criticized the Eleusinian Mysteries. He once
threw a wooden image of a god into a fire, remarking that the deity
should perform another miracle and save itself.
ref: wiki
Critias was a sculptor.
(and Socrtes was a mid-wife) are we splitting hairs?
A common enough name in ancient Greece, his namesake was also a
politician, a shoemaker, a warrior, a tinker a sailor, a candlestick
maker.
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