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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Dec 25, 2007 13:30
follows the bad, such as at: http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_nov122007.html
or Ron Paul's comments about the effect of the Federal Reserve. I can
see how they've been playing with the value of digital money, but dont
see how they monkey with the price of gold.
Be that as it may, a point the apocryphal posters seem to miss is that
the US has been, and still is, the global police force. And the effect
of the US withdrawl from that portion of the New World Order known as
Africa, has been obvious to global investors.
Aw right, so they hold 9 trillion or whatever of US treasury notes. If
a run on the dollar starts, those troops are all coming back to the
US. Machiavelli:"The only time the Italians had any peace, was when
the French king threatened to invade." There are those in the global
power elite who know what Mach was talking about, and the Yankees have
them over a barrel. If we bring our guns home, they will be looking at
other barrels, and they know that.
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Author: snakehawksnakehawk Date: Dec 25, 2007 16:13
On Dec 25, 3:30 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:> follows the bad, such as at:http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_nov122007.html
> or Ron Paul's comments about the effect of the Federal Reserve. I can
> see how they've been playing with the value of digital money, but dont
> see how they monkey with the price of gold.
>
> Be that as it may, a point the apocryphal posters seem to miss is that
> the US has been, and still is, the global police force.
And Ron Paul wants to end America's super-expensive and unproductive
role as "global police force." He wants to bring our young soldiers
home to do what they enlisted to do: defend the United States. The
savings will be immediate and enormous.
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Author: Igor The TerribleIgor The Terrible Date: Dec 25, 2007 19:30
On Dec 25, 7:13 pm, snakehawk mailandnews.com> wrote:> On Dec 25, 3:30 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
>>> follows the bad, such as at:http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_nov122007.html
>> or Ron Paul's comments about the effect of the Federal Reserve. I can
>> see how they've been playing with the value of digital money, but dont
>> see how they monkey with the price of gold. >
>> Be that as it may, a point the apocryphal posters seem to miss is that
>> the US has been, and still is, the global police force.
>
> And Ron Paul wants to end America's super-expensive and unproductive
> role as "global police force." He wants to bring our young soldiers
> home to do what they enlisted to do: defend the United States. The
> savings will be immediate and enormous.
>
> And the effect
>
>> of the US withdrawl from that portion of the New World Order known as
>> Africa, has been obvious to global investors. ...
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Author: WernerWerner Date: Dec 25, 2007 20:48
On Dec 25, 10:30 pm, Igor The Terrible
mad.scientist.com> wrote:> On Dec 25, 7:13 pm, snakehawk mailandnews.com> wrote:
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>>> On Dec 25, 3:30 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:>
>>> follows the bad, such as at:http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_nov122007.html
>>> or Ron Paul's comments about the effect of the Federal Reserve. I can
>>> see how they've been playing with the value of digital money, but dont
>>> see how they monkey with the price of gold. >
>>> Be that as it may, a point the apocryphal posters seem to miss is that
>>> the US has been, and still is, the global police force.
>
>> And Ron Paul wants to end America's super-expensive and unproductive
>> role as "global police force." He wants to bring our young soldiers
>> home to do what they enlisted to do: defend the United States. The
>> savings will be immediate and enormous. ...
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Dec 26, 2007 10:25
On Dec 25, 4:30 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:
> ...You cant eat gold.
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Dec 26, 2007 10:33
On Dec 25, 7:13 pm, snakehawk mailandnews.com> wrote:
> ..What have the people of the United States to lose
> by giving him the chance?
Our national security. You might as well vote for the most left wing
candidate running - are there any communists in the race? The result
will be the same.
Fred Weiss
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Dec 26, 2007 11:02
The global bankers only keep on holding the 9 trillion in national
debt and supporting the dollar cause they know that when the troops
come home the price of oil will go thru the roof, with so many
expecting an immediate shoot out over who gets to control Persian Gulf
oil. Conversely, if the troops come home, and that includes from
Guantanmo, Europe, and Korea, the global bankers wont see any reason
to support the dollar.
Now, the Untied States of Denial could, in fact, get by on just the
oil it can produce. There's enuf to fuel the tractors and produce the
petrochemicals to grow the crops to feed everyone. But no way is there
enuf for all the SUVs the commuters use to drive from the suburban
fringe to the urban high rises. We could move people out of the
ghettos and pack them in 20 or so at a crack, into some of the 3000
square foot McMansions on the urban fringe, and let them turn the
lawns into gardens to raise most of the food they need.
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Author: lorad474lorad474 Date: Dec 26, 2007 16:32
On Dec 26, 11:02 am, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:> The global bankers only keep on holding the 9 trillion in national
> debt and supporting the dollar cause they know that when the troops
> come home the price of oil will go thru the roof, with so many
> expecting an immediate shoot out over who gets to control Persian Gulf
> oil. Conversely, if the troops come home, and that includes from
> Guantanmo, Europe, and Korea, the global bankers wont see any reason
> to support the dollar.
>
> Now, the Untied States of Denial could, in fact, get by on just the
> oil it can produce. There's enuf to fuel the tractors and produce the
> petrochemicals to grow the crops to feed everyone. But no way is there
> enuf for all the SUVs the commuters use to drive from the suburban
> fringe to the urban high rises. We could move people out of the
> ghettos and pack them in 20 or so at a crack, into some of the 3000
> square foot McMansions on the urban fringe, and let them turn the
> lawns into gardens to raise most of the food they need.
>
> But nobody's gonna get a political mandate to do that. I sympathize
> with Ron Paul, he's right the system is corrupt and seriously fucked, ...
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Dec 26, 2007 16:52
You are right, its not the whole problem. I just try to watch out for
those factors which have not been picked up on. The fact the US
imports so much food is not that relevant because it is cheaper to
process elsewhere. But if you look at the USDA website, you see what a
major producer of the raw material, grain & soybeans, are. You will
also discover that the Canadian production was harmed by global
warming. This we'd expect as you move to the higher latitudes and the
changes become more pronounced.
If there were economic crisis, people will switch from buying
processed food to trying to cook it themselves. While the withdrawl
you speak of is certainly worth considering, I dont see a political
mandate to do that. To some extent, the dollar is already supported by
the grain exports, and simply admitting that it is, in part, based on
the value of grain would be a realistic political policy.
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Author: snakehawksnakehawk Date: Dec 26, 2007 19:57
On Dec 26, 1:02 pm, Day Brown hughes.net> wrote:> The global bankers only keep on holding the 9 trillion in national
> debt and supporting the dollar cause they know that when the troops
> come home the price of oil will go thru the roof, with so many
> expecting an immediate shoot out over who gets to control Persian Gulf
> oil. Conversely, if the troops come home, and that includes from
> Guantanmo, Europe, and Korea, the global bankers wont see any reason
> to support the dollar.
That simply means the U.S. is keeping the dollar at a false value at
gunpoint. In a way, that's probably true. But if the dollar was
backed by gold, gratuitous support by the international bankers would
be unnecessary.
On the other hand, the U.S. is now borrowing and spending too many
fiat dollars trying to hold the dollar up and as a result the dollar
is falling. The United State has "surged" even more troops overseas
and oil is still going through the roof. So much for gunboat
economics.
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