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The eyeof the beholder.         


Author: brian fletcher
Date: Apr 3, 2008 20:51

Some producers of great art are autistic.

The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.

Does anyone see a contradiction here?

BOfL
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Re: The eyeof the beholder.         


Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 3, 2008 21:09

On Apr 3, 11:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> Some producers of great art are autistic.
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> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
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> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
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> BOfL

The art is of high caliber because they're autistic? Yes then that
would be bullshit. Art should be judged on it's artistic value alone
unless it's some kind of program to encourage the "disadvantaged".

"Making judgments of value requires a basis for criticism. At the
simplest level, a way to determine whether the impact of the object on
the senses meets the criteria to be considered art, is whether it...
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Re: The eyeof the beholder.         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 3, 2008 21:52

On Apr 3, 8:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> Some producers of great art are autistic.
>
> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
>
> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
>
> BOfL

If some blind people can devote much of the visual cortex, not being
used by vision, to musical skills and creativity, sort of an
appropriation of unused but functioning brain tissue, then autism may
produce such a condition. Maybe the condition promotes Synesthesia
which is a neurologically-based phenomenon in which stimulation of one
sensory or cognitive pathway leads to automatic, involuntary
experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway. In one common
form of synesthesia, known as grapheme -> color synesthesia, letters
or numbers are perceived as inherently colored, while in ordinal
linguistic personification, numbers, days of the week and months of
the year evoke personalities.
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Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 3, 2008 21:58

On Apr 4, 12:52 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 8:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Some producers of great art are autistic.
>
>> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
>
>> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
>
>> BOfL
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> If some blind people can devote much of the visual cortex, not being
> used by vision, to musical skills and creativity, sort of an
> appropriation of unused but functioning brain tissue, then autism may
> produce such a condition. Maybe the condition promotes Synesthesia
> which is a neurologically-based phenomenon in which stimulation of one
> sensory or cognitive pathway leads to automatic, involuntary
> experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway. In one common
> form of synesthesia, known as grapheme -> color synesthesia, letters
> or numbers are perceived as inherently colored, while in ordinal ...
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 3, 2008 22:20

On Apr 3, 9:58 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 12:52 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 3, 8:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Some producers of great art are autistic.
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>>> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
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>>> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
>
>>> BOfL
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>> If some blind people can devote much of the visual cortex, not being
>> used by vision, to musical skills and creativity, sort of an
>> appropriation of unused but functioning brain tissue, then autism may ...
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Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 3, 2008 22:26

On Apr 4, 1:20 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 9:58 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>> On Apr 4, 12:52 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> On Apr 3, 8:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Some producers of great art are autistic.
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>>>> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
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>>>> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
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>>>> BOfL
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>>> If some blind people can devote much of the visual cortex, not being ...
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Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 3, 2008 23:02

On Apr 3, 10:26 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 1:20 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 3, 9:58 pm, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
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>>> On Apr 4, 12:52 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Apr 3, 8:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Some producers of great art are autistic.
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>>>>> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
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>>>>> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
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>>>>> BOfL ...
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Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Apr 4, 2008 04:14

re: my polyannish perception re statistical deviation

I'll offer an off the wall alternative.

I think y'all have covered concentration in your semi decipherable
colloquy, haven't you?

Obviously the brain workings of autistics etal are not (by normative
or common definition) the norm.

And the exceptionally talented artist, musician, jigsaw puzzle sage et
al aren't the norm.

Bobby Paranoia Fisher, the best chess ...

So-called "idiot-savants" with "pinch" brains...

The point here is not hard to get, & I suppose everybody has
considered the following.

Although, apparently somebody is apparently
offended by such rationalization &
condescension.

Nevertheless:

What if that autism & other neurological anomalies are
"mutations" of tremendous importance to the survival of human
future ?
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Author: ta
Date: Apr 4, 2008 12:35

On Apr 3, 11:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> Some producers of great art are autistic.
>
> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
>
> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
>
> BOfL

Eye always thought beauty was in the eye of the beer-holder. ;-)
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Re: The eyeof the beholder.         


Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 4, 2008 20:54

On Apr 3, 11:51 pm, "brian fletcher" gmail.com> wrote:
> Some producers of great art are autistic.
>
> The observers of such works declare them to be high calibre.
>
> Does anyone see a contradiction here?
>
> BOfL

An acquaintance of mine just wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/More-Self-than-Autisms-Edge/dp/0595392962

"Author Henry Kong's More Self than Self: At Autism's Edge will take
you on a captivating exploration of the autistic mind as Dr. Kong
shares the latest discoveries in genetics and neuroscience.
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