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Author: Sound of TrumpetSound of Trumpet Date: Oct 23, 2006 18:59
http://www.wcg.org/lit/disc/11evidence.htm
Evidence of Jesus' resurrection
Michael Morrison
Christians, Jews, and atheists agree that Jesus was crucified and
buried. The crucial belief for Christianity is that he was also
resurrected - as evidence that he is the Son of God, the teacher of
truth, the door and the way of salvation, the firstfruits of the
resurrection. Here is the evidence for his resurrection:
First, most historians agree that the early disciples believed that
Jesus had risen from the dead. Although at Jesus' death they were
dejected and fearful, they were soon dramatically different: They
risked...
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Date: Oct 23, 2006 19:56
> Evidence of Jesus' resurrection
>
> Michael Morrison
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> Christians, Jews, and atheists agree that Jesus was crucified and
> buried.
No, some folks think he never existed at all.
> The crucial belief for Christianity is that he was also resurrected -
> as evidence that he is the Son of God, the teacher of truth, the door
> and the way of salvation, the firstfruits of the resurrection. Here is
> the evidence for his resurrection:
>
> First, most historians agree that the early disciples believed that
> Jesus had risen from the dead.
Belief does not make it true.
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Author: Josh MilesJosh Miles Date: Oct 23, 2006 21:40
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
Look, a lie in the very first sentence! There is no such agreement. Many
historians doubt that Jesus even existed, and for good reason. There is
absolutely *no* objective evidence (note to you Christians: the New
Testament is *not* objective evidence) of his existence.
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Author: Impeach BushImpeach Bush Date: Oct 23, 2006 23:38
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
But we dont have Jesus' word for any of this -
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Author: DigsDigs Date: Oct 24, 2006 00:40
There is no evidence that even the apostles existed outside of the
Bible.
Below is a quote about the subject. The article quoted is originally
authored by me so it is not me merely repeating somebody else's work. -
I have edited some of it for posting here. - I'm Digsalot there too.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=402936
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"Now then, there are many characters in the New Testament, but perhaps
the most blatantly obvious fictions are the Twelve Disciples. Of
course, if Jesus was a sun-god (and who else is born on the winter...
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Author: dejarevengedejarevenge Date: Oct 24, 2006 00:51
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Author: NosterillNosterill Date: Oct 24, 2006 01:50
Sound of Trumpet wrote:
Oh no we don't!
After that stunning start, I really couldn't be bothered with the rest
of it.
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Author: Douglas BerryDouglas Berry Date: Oct 24, 2006 05:43
On 23 Oct 2006 18:59:16 -0700 "Sound of Trumpet"
myway.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
>Christians, Jews, and atheists agree that Jesus was crucified and
>buried.
No, many of us disagree with that conclusion. I believe that if there
was a historical Jesus, the one in the Gospels is a composite
character, taking elements from the actual Jesus and other prophets of
the time.
>First, most historians agree that the early disciples believed that
>Jesus had risen from the dead. Although at Jesus' death they were
>dejected and fearful, they were soon dramatically different: They
>risked their lives repeatedly to preach about Jesus.
And how many people have seen Elvis since he died? How many people
believe Jim Morrison faked his death? Right now in alt.conspiracy we
have multiple posters swearing that Ken Lay is alive and well.
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Author: roger_pearseroger_pearse Date: Oct 24, 2006 05:44
Josh Miles wrote:
>> Christians, Jews, and atheists agree that Jesus was crucified and
>> buried.
>
> Look, a lie in the very first sentence! There is no such agreement. Many
> historians doubt that Jesus even existed, and for good reason. There is
> absolutely *no* objective evidence (note to you Christians: the New
> Testament is *not* objective evidence) of his existence.
This post would appear to be objective evidence of stupidity.
All the best,
Roger Pearse
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Author: LuciferLucifer Date: Oct 24, 2006 06:00
> Josh Miles wrote:
>>> Christians, Jews, and atheists agree that Jesus was crucified and
>>> buried.
>>
>> Look, a lie in the very first sentence! There is no such agreement. Many
>> historians doubt that Jesus even existed, and for good reason. There is
>> absolutely *no* objective evidence (note to you Christians: the New
>> Testament is *not* objective evidence) of his existence.
>
> This post would appear to be objective evidence of stupidity.
Well said. Your post is evidence of just how fucking stupid you are.
Provide some verifiable evidence for jebus to have existed at all, then
provide evidence he was more than just any other dead jew on a stick.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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