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Author: Day Brown
Date: Aug 30, 2008 13:31

Immortalist wrote:
> ...genetic medicine, a place that researchers say increasing numbers
> of us may visit in the years ahead. In 1997 there were genetic tests
> for about 150 inherited diseases. Today, that figure exceeds 1,100 and
> grows daily. Most tests can't determine for sure that you'll develop a
> specific disease -- but they can often tell you whether you're an
> above-average candidate for a slew of conditions. Positive results can
> spur you into fight mode, hoping to avoid what your twisted strands of
> DNA have in store for you. But, though knowledge is power, it can be
> hard to accept: You're forced to squint into a future in which your
> body is more vulnerable than you expected, and the TMI factor can be
> daunting...
>
> http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/dna-testing
>
> Medical genetics is the specialty of medicine that involves the
> diagnosis and management of hereditary disorders. Medical genetics
> differs from Human genetics in that human genetics is a field of
> scientific research that may or may not apply to medicine, but medical
> genetics refers to the application of genetics to medical care. For
> example, research on the causes and inheritance of genetic disorders
> would be considered within both human genetics and medical genetics,
> while the diagnosis, management, and counseling of individuals with
> genetic disorders would be considered part of medical genetics. In
> contrast, the study of typically non-medical phenotypes such as the
> genetics of eye color would be considered part of human genetics, but
> not necessarily relevant to medical genetics (except in situations
> such as albinism). Genetic medicine is a newer term for medical
> genetics and incorporates areas such as gene therapy and personalized
> medicine.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_genetics
>
> ...The causes of human experience include genes, accidents,
> infections, birth order, teachers, parents, circumstance, opportunity,
> and chance, to name just the most obvious. Sometimes one cause looms
> large, but not always. When you catch a cold the chief cause is a
> virus, but when you catch pneumonia the bacterium is only an
> opportunist-your immune system usually needs to have been run down
> first by starvation, hypothermia, or stress. Is that the "true" cause?
> Likewise, "genetic" diseases such as Huntington's chorea are caused
> precisely and simply by a mutation in one gene; environmental factors
> have almost no influence on the outcome. But phenylketonuria (PKU), a
> form of mental retardation caused by an inability to digest
> phenylalanine, could be said to be caused by the mutation, or by phen-
> ylalanine in the diet-it can be seen as either nature or nurture,
> depending on your bias. How much more complex is the pattern when many
> different genes and many different environmental factors are almost
> certainly involved, as is probably the case with schizophrenia.
>
> NATURE VIA NURTURE - genes, experience, and what makes us human
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060006781/
Polite discourse is appreciated. I have the above book, which is good,
but you need to read between the line to see how some gene pools have
innately higher levels of violence and drug abuse, whereas they dont
mind citing the more sympathetic syndromes like autism or schizophrenia.

The complexity you refer to is mind boggling, and if that's not enuf,
now we read about epigenetic factors, which're inherited, developmental,
and/or environmental in triggering or preventing development of either
endowments or problems.

Young women are realizing the solution is the abandonment of monogamy in
favor of a more ambiguous agrarian village model with a limited number
of sex partners in order to control exposure to STDs combined with
fertility clinic services to maximize genetic diversity in the next
generation. If, as you note, genetic problems result, within the coven
there is enuf support to help a mother cope, and the likelihood of there
being more than one challenging child is trivially small.

This is win/win. The challenged child is raised with normal peers, not
in a nuclear family household where that example lacks peer pressure. As
time goes on, the normal kids learn that not everyone is like them; that
adds to their respect for diversity. But they are also available to help
the mother of the challenged kid cope with that kid, as well as give her
the joy of feedback from healthy kids.

The DNAancestryproject.com revealed my own DNA comes out of 10,000 years
of agrarian village life in Europe. That is what I, and my own kids,
instinctively expected to live in, and from the data we have on the
result of kids raised in small rural communities, it maximizes mental
development. It minimizes exposure to most of the chemicals that exist
in the modern urban environment.

In addition to all of the above, as if its not more than enuf already,
studies show how trace minerals- iron, copper, zinc, manganese, etc, are
needed to empower some of the 150+ neurotransmitters to lay down new
neural pathways during learning. If those are lacking, then the
neurotransmitters will try to make do with whatever other chemicals,
like say traces of mercury, that may be present. Which raises the level
of autism in a gene pool.

Agribusiness doses the land with Nitrogen, Phosphorus, & Potash. [that's
a period] The trace minerals have been leached out long ago. Family farm
gardens are still organic enuf to have them, so their kids dont have
nearly the developmental issues. This has something to do with "Imperial
Grunts" by Kaplan, who reported that half the Green Berets grew up on
family farms. This is but 1%% of the population providing 50%% of the
nation's most competent soldiers.

Of course, as we see in the postings with all the ad hominum, most of
them are in neurotic denial, and dont want to think about their own lack
of genetic endowment, what their parents did to damage it, much less
what they have been doing to their own kids with diets of sugar cereals,
junkfood, and soda. You may grow up to be rational anyway, but if so,
you are damn lucky. Course that is the nature of the DNA crapshoot.

So, this thread is not put forward in the vain hope of changing policy,
but to be a tip to the rational to get the fuck out of town and find a
more rational rural population to live among. We saw in Katrina, how
after a disaster, people were comatose in shock. Had the Guard not got
in there before people got hungry, they would have been motivated to get
out of the city, form angry mobs, and desperately hit the suburbs for
whatever they can find.

Because the electorate is irrational, they elect demagogues, and those
in turn ignore political and economic reality in favor of whatever will
sell in a campaign ad. Former US comptroller David M. Walker has been
going around warning of a $53 trillion entitlement & National debt that
will lead to the dramatic devaluation of the dollar unless something
realistic is done. I've been watching him for a few years now, and he is
not getting anywhere.

The only solution is personal, as seen in the Decameron, where all you
can do is go into self imposed quarantine hoping the plague of insanity
will pass you by. You cant clean the environment or the food supply. You
can move to where you can grow the food to raise kids on, and moving up
from cottage industry to the small business model of villages scales up
the economy to provide much more with much less work.

There are thousands of small towns that dont have air pollution. Get
their water from wells. Dont have fast food outlets, much less feed to
their kids in school. And as a result have schools that still work. In
that case, smart parents move there bringing their kids. Schools with
orderly classes draw teachers who like to teach.

Course, research will also reveal small towns that are inbred idiots,
and only kin stays there. Mining towns are hard hit by contaminated
aquifers. The devil is in the details, and a group surfing the issue
would have lots better luck on finding the best place for them all.

Obama talks about bringing us together, but he may be running out of
time, and we've yet to see the kind of congress he will have to attempt
to do that with. If he fails, then homogeneous groups will be far more
able to cope with the after effects, and they should look closely at
their own genetic endowment, or lack thereof.
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