> This is about the sudden and across-the-board degeneration that has set
> in on the species man as a whole in modern history, which is all set to
> mark the end of mankind as a species. Or, it is about the modern social
> development and as to how man and nature, contrary to their co-existence
> for millions of years as mutually interconnected and interdependent,
> have suddenly entered on a collision course in modern history, and
> embarked on its eventual and inevitable fallout.

> The concept describing the "degeneration" of Man is inseparable from
> that of the evolution of Man. In truth, people of the modern world have
> been taught to view the history of mankind almost entirely upside- down.
> We speak of "the rise of Man" and assume "the ignorance of ancient
> peoples", when in actual fact nothing could be more the contrary. From a
> more objective point of view, the history of mankind on this Earth has
> apparently been a progressive descent or degeneration; a degeneration
> which appears to have reached it's nadir in exactly this period in which
> we are now living.

> This is about the sudden and across-the-board degeneration that has
> set in on the species man as a whole in modern history, which is all
> set to mark the end of mankind as a species. Or, it is about the
> modern social development and as to how man and nature, contrary to
> their co-existence for millions of years as mutually interconnected
> and interdependent, have suddenly entered on a collision course in
> modern history, and embarked on its eventual and inevitable fallout.
> The concept describing the "degeneration" of Man is inseparable from
> that of the evolution of Man. In truth, people of the modern world
> have been taught to view the history of mankind almost entirely upside-
> down. We speak of "the rise of Man" and assume "the ignorance of
> ancient peoples", when in actual fact nothing could be more the
> contrary. From a more objective point of view, the history of mankind
> on this Earth has apparently been a progressive descent or
> degeneration; a degeneration which appears to have reached it's nadir
> in exactly this period in which we are now living.
>
> In this respect, I am inviting the attantion of the esteemed members
> of this group to my blogs on: ...

> The basic idea that man and nature were once in harmony but now on a
> collusion course has been a pet peeve of mine for quite some time. To me
> saying such a thing is like saying a lake is on a collusion course with
> water. Separating humans from nature can be a > way to look at < the
> unwise use of human resources or the pollution of the human
> environment but this has nothing at all to do with nature itself which is
> as present in a polluted stream as it is in the one pristine.

> "> Nature vs Human
>

>> The basic idea that man and nature were once in harmony but now on a
>> collusion course has been a pet peeve of mine for quite some time. To me
>> saying such a thing is like saying a lake is on a collusion course with
>> water. Separating humans from nature can be a > way to look at < the
>> unwise use of human resources or the pollution of the human
>> environment but this has nothing at all to do with nature itself which is
>> as present in a polluted stream as it is in the one pristine.

>
> You are taking away 'useful' language by using strict logic. Most people
> would understand the seperation of humans from nature 'in essence' to mean
> simply pathways, as the original state, 'unharmonious'. Call it symbionism
> of sorts...or some comential kind of relationship humans have with this
> world [or not]. The more we venture away from 'harmony' with this world,
> the more 'unnatural' we have proceeded [as the idea flows]. You mention
> resources, which has many clear examples. The USSR was a political
> experiment that radicalized the economy based in idealism. But it was
> 'unharmonious' to this world and it's nature...and it failed. In fact, the ...

> On Nov 19, 3:26 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>

>> "> Nature vs Human

>

>>> The basic idea that man and nature were once in harmony but now on a
>>> collusion course has been a pet peeve of mine for quite some time. To me
>>> saying such a thing is like saying a lake is on a collusion course with
>>> water. Separating humans from nature can be a > way to look at < the
>>> unwise use of human resources or the pollution of the human
>>> environment but this has nothing at all to do with nature itself which is
>>> as present in a polluted stream as it is in the one pristine.

>

>> You are taking away 'useful' language by using strict logic. Most people
>> would understand the seperation of humans from nature 'in essence' to mean
>> simply pathways, as the original state, 'unharmonious'. Call it symbionism
>> of sorts...or some comential kind of relationship humans have with this
>> world [or not]. The more we venture away from 'harmony' with this world,
>> the more 'unnatural' we have proceeded [as the idea flows]. You mention
>> resources, which has many clear examples. The USSR was a political ...

> On Nov 19, 3:26 pm, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:
>

>> "> Nature vs Human

>

>>> The basic idea that man and nature were once in harmony but now on a
>>> collusion course has been a pet peeve of mine for quite some time. To me
>>> saying such a thing is like saying a lake is on a collusion course with
>>> water. Separating humans from nature can be a > way to look at < the
>>> unwise use of human resources or the pollution of the human
>>> environment but this has nothing at all to do with nature itself which is
>>> as present in a polluted stream as it is in the one pristine.

>

>> You are taking away 'useful' language by using strict logic. Most people
>> would understand the seperation of humans from nature 'in essence' to mean
>> simply pathways, as the original state, 'unharmonious'. Call it symbionism
>> of sorts...or some comential kind of relationship humans have with this
>> world [or not]. The more we venture away from 'harmony' with this world,
>> the more 'unnatural' we have proceeded [as the idea flows]. You mention
>> resources, which has many clear examples. The USSR was a political ...