On Oct 9, 11:52 am, ta
nc.rr.com> wrote:> On Oct 8, 7:20 pm, tg
earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 8, 5:43 pm, Sir Frederick
fuzzysys.com> wrote:>
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>>> Last updated at 15:43pm on 7th October 2007
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>>> Muslim medical students are refusing to learn about alcohol-related
>>> illnesses and sexually-transmitted diseases because they say it goes
>>> against their religious beliefs.
>
>>> And a small number are even refusing to examine patients of the opposite
>>> sex because they say it is forbidden by the Koran.
>
>>> The General Medical Council and the British Medical Association both say
>>> they have heard of cases of trainee doctors having religious objections.
>
>>> Some Muslim students claim studying sex and alcohol related diseases is
>>> 'offensive'
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>>> But they say they did not approve of them, pointing out that a doctor
>>> would not be able to qualify if they missed parts of their course.
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>>> The BMA, the professional body for doctors, said it had been notified of
>>> Muslim students who did not want to learn anything about alcohol or the
>>> effects of over consumption.
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>>> 'They are so opposed to the consumption of it they don't want to learn
>>> anything about it,' a spokesman said.
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>>> And the GMC, which regulates doctors and maintains the medical register,
>>> recently brought out a paper for medical schools explaining what to do
>>> if students ask whether they could still graduate if they omitted parts
>>> of the medical curriculum.
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>>> The document makes it clear that doctors will not be able to opt out of
>>> any part of their training despite any religious objections.
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>>> Professor Peter Rubin, chairman of the GMC's education committee, said:
>>> 'Examples have included a refusal to see patients who are affected by
>>> diseases caused by alcohol or sexual activity, or a refusal to examine
>>> patients of a particular gender.'
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>>> But he said trainees who refused to carry out these parts of their
>>> courses would not be allowed to graduate because 'prejudicing treatment
>>> on the grounds of patients' gender or their responsibility for their
>>> condition would run counter to the most basic principles of ethical
>>> medical practice.'
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>>> Dr Abdul Majid Katne of the Islamic Medical Association said he did not
>>> support students who wanted to opt out of certain aspects of their
>>> courses.
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>>> 'To learn about alcohol, to learn about sexually-transmitted disease, to
>>> learn about abortion, it gives us more evidence to campaign against it,'
>>> he said. 'There is a difference between learning and practicing.
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>>> 'It is obligatory for Muslim doctors and students to learn about
>>> everything. The Prophet said: "Learn about witchcraft, but don't
>>> practice it".'
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>>> Sainsbury's and Boots allow their pharmacists to refuse to sell the
>>> morning after pill to customers if they have 'ethical' concerns.
>
>> Correct----the Dark Ages is by no means restricted to Muslims, but to
>> so-called Christian doctors who refuse to perform abortions, and the
>> pharmacists who refuse to sell morning-after pills. Well educated WASP
>> doctors, in fact.
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>> What to do, what to do? Should religious freedom be restricted, and
>> WASP-Christian doctors be required to perform abortions as part of
>> their certification process?
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>> -tg
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>> --
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>>> Frederick Martin McNeill
>>> Poway, California, United States of America
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> "And finally, New Rule: If you don't think your daughter getting
> cancer is worse than your daughter having sex, you're doing it wrong.
> Last year, modern medicine came up with a way to greatly reduce
> cervical cancer in young women. It's a vaccine that can virtually wipe
> out the sexually-transmitted disease called HPV, which leads to the
> cancer.
>
> But not everyone is pleased with this vaccine. There are Christian
> values groups and churches nationwide who are fighting it. Briget
> Maher - no relation-and none planned - formerly of the Family Research
> Council- says giving girls the vaccine is bad because- quote - "the
> girls may see it as a license to engage in pre-marital sex."
>
> Hey, Mrs. Maher, let me tell you something. Your daughter is already
> on the Internet exchanging bondage fantasies with a German boy she met
> on MySpace. Forget HPV. She's on to S&M. And Mrs. Maher, I'm sure I
> don't have to tell you there's only one foolproof method to make a
> woman abstinent: marry her.
>
> So, let's review here. HPV is a new STD that the CDC wants teens
> vaccinated for PDQ. And that's not sitting well with the Harper Valley
> PTA. They think if a teenage girl feels a little prick, she's going to
> want to feel a whole lot more.
>
> But, HPV shots don't cause promiscuity. Tequila shots do. And MTV. And
> having moron parents you want to escape from. Hey, when you're 15
> years old, breathing encourages sexual activity.
>
> But, let's be frank. These values groups aren't just against the HPV
> shot. They're against family planning and condoms and morning-after
> pills. They want to make sure sex is as dangerous as possible, so that
> kids know if they sleep around and get an STD, that's God teaching
> them a lesson. And that lesson is: "You should never have tried out
> for 'American Idol' in the first place!"
>
> Now, I know our kids are dumb. I just read it in a New Rule. But, will
> they really have sex with anything that moves just because they know
> there's a vaccine? People don't get the vaccine for typhoid and say,
> "Great, now I can drink the sewer water in Bombay!" It's like being
> against a cure for blindness because it'll encourage masturbation!
>
> It's like being for the salmonella poisoning in peanut butter because
> it will discourage weirdos from spreading it on their ass and calling
> the dog!
>
> If this is the nonsense you're teaching your kids, they're already
> screwed. "
http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/new_rules/20070302.html
and . . .
"And finally, New Rule: Pharmacists have to fill prescriptions. As our
audience seems to already know, more and more American pharmacists are
refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control because of their
personal moral objections. Hey, you know what would really teach us a
lesson? If you took off your pretend doctor jacket and got another
job.
Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe cutting off the pill doesn't even go far
enough. Yeah, it's high time activist drugstores stopped coddling
sluts on every aisle. Let's not sell any more makeup either. A good
woman doesn't paint herself. And no more deodorant. You should smell
bad. Keep the boys from getting ideas. And no suntan lotion. I've seen
what happens at the MTV Beach House, you whore. You want to avoid
melanoma, buy a veil.
Why is this country becoming Utah?! You know, I know the conservatives
are always saying that the coastal elites don't really get it about
them because we just fly over. Okay, maybe. But, you know what? You
guys don't get us either. We need to fuck. Refusal to provide birth
control threatens our economy and our very way of life here in
Southern California. There's a lot of hot chicks out here, man. We
need birth control! I mean, seriously, how do you think movies get
made?
Now, of course, I know the other side is saying, yes, but this is a
moral issue. Yeah, but the problem is, not everyone gets their morals
from the same book. You go by the book that says slavery is okay but
sex is wrong until after marriage, at which point it becomes a blessed
sacrament between a husband and the wife who is withholding it.
In conclusion, let me say to all the activist pharmacists out there,
the ones who think sex is bad probably because sex with them always
is. Fellas, a pharmacist is not a law-giver, not even a doctor. In the
medical pecking order, you rank somewhere in between a chiropractor
and a tree surgeon.
You don't answer to a law above the laws of men. You work for Sav-On.
The doctors are the ones who make medical decisions because they went
to medical school, whereas you were transferred from the counter where
people drop off film."
http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/new_rules/20050408.html
