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Author: tgtg Date: Dec 26, 2007 11:07
What is the cost?
Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
what that would be.
Since this is a spinoff of something crossposted I will crosspost,
contrary to standard practice.
-tg
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Author: Dan BloomquistDan Bloomquist Date: Dec 26, 2007 11:51
tg wrote:
> What is the cost?
>
> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
> gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
> what that would be.
The cost will belong to the masses. That is because big business will,
well, make big business out of the issue. And yet, nothing will really
get done. Global warming will just be another instrument used to
consolidate wealth.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Dec 26, 2007 12:42
>> What is the cost?
>> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
>> gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
>> what that would be.
> The cost will belong to the masses. That is because big business will,
> well, make big business out of the issue. And yet, nothing will really
> get done. Global warming will just be another instrument used to
> consolidate wealth.
AGW is one of the biggest monkey wrenches to ever get tossed into
rightard pseudomarket economic theory which is why you see so many
rightards in such a state of denial over AGW.
The reason the rich pay Al Gore to hype AGW isn't to counter AGW but
to counter any serious discussion of AGW.
They know the unpopular misanthrope Gore discredits any cause he
supports.
I predict it will blow up in their faces.
Bret Cahill
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Author: MillerMiller Date: Dec 26, 2007 13:28
> What is the cost?
>
> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
> gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
> what that would be.
>
> Since this is a spinoff of something crossposted I will crosspost,
> contrary to standard practice.
>
> -tg
Oil and energy companies, and any other industry--anything from auto to
tourism--would loose short-term profits if we were to pull back from an
economy based on runaway mass consumption. In the US and elsewhere, that is
a big stumbling block to any significant change.
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Author: Peder B. PelsPeder B. Pels Date: Dec 26, 2007 15:11
Miller chartermi.net> wrote:
>> What is the cost?
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>> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Dec 26, 2007 16:12
>>> What is the cost?
>
>>> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
>>> gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
>>> what that would be.
>
>>> Since this is a spinoff of something crossposted I will crosspost,
>>> contrary to standard practice.
>
>>> -tg
>
>> Oil and energy companies, and any other industry--anything from auto to
>> tourism--would loose short-term profits if we were to pull back from an
>> economy based on runaway mass consumption. �In the US and elsewhere, that is
>> a big stumbling block to any significant change.
>
>> In the meantime, we will change over to fluorescent lightbulbs nod in
>> agreement when watching Al Goreish documentaries and convince ourselves that
>> we have done everything we can. �And watch everything burn slowly faster and
>> faster while rich men fiddle. ...
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Author: Peder B. PelsPeder B. Pels Date: Dec 26, 2007 16:51
Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
>>>> What is the cost?
>>
>>>> Everyone whines about economic disaster if we try to reduce/prevent
>>>> gobal climate change. But so far I haven't heard any explanation of
>>>> what that would...
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Author: Phil HaysPhil Hays Date: Dec 26, 2007 20:09
Peder B. Pels wrote:
> Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>> Peder B. Pels wrote:
>> In the not distant enough future, a few Lear jets can easily burn up
>> all the bio leaving zero (0) food as well as zero (0) fuel for the rest
>> of us.
>
> That's ridiculous.
Oh? Why?
Biofuels put food (fuel) for Lear jets in the same marketplace as the food
the poor buy. That is an old story, common back when horsepower was real
horses. Bad year, and the horses the Barron and his household rode were
not going to starve, so some people needed to starve. Only so much food.
Barron pays cash.
>> Markets do in fact, handle the shortage problem: By "load shedding"
>> entire populations of those who cannot afford to pay.
> Only way that is possible is by letting a privileged elite take it all,
> and that has very little to do with (free) markets, but more US-style
> state corporatism and managed trade (NAFTA, GATT, FTAA, EU etc.).
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Date: Dec 26, 2007 20:31
"Phil Hays" wrote in message
news:pan.2007.12.27.04.09.31.316871@dont.spam...
> "Free markets" have rules. Need to, can't run a free market without rules.
> The question is, who sets the rules?
Excellent question! It wouldn't be hard to imagine that it would be those
whom the rules benifit the most.
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Dec 26, 2007 20:42
On Dec 26, 2:07 pm, tg earthlink.net> wrote:
> What is the cost?
Well, since there is no AGW - or it is vanishingly insignificant - the
cost of preventing and/or reversing it would be infinite, that is, it
will be the cost of dealing with the non-existent. It will be like the
cost of eradicating ghosts.
In other words, whatever will be done will be useless, so assuming it
was seriously thought we had to "do something" about it - and when it
is seen that nothing we do makes the slightest difference, just as
people will continue to "see ghosts" no matter what is done (in fact,
arguably, since it is nothing more than mass hysteria, the more that
is done the more ghosts that will be seen) - the cost will simply
mount astronomically, achieving absolutely nothing except destroying
the economy.
The Left however will be happy since they feed on misery and the more
the misery the more they can justify their dream of dictatorship - and
the guillotines and the bloody mass slaughter which will accompany it.
Fred Weiss
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