On Jul 13, 9:37Â am, T-minus108
gmail.com> wrote:> There's no reason to be upset Tim, I mearly put this here to discuss
> it. And, sense you kept saying "These people don't have a clue!",
> would you mind telling me what you're clue is?
But there is a reason for him to be upset.
He chose to !
>
> I love the movie Contact! I haven't seen it in years, but I used to
> watch it and become amazed by it... Great movie!
Sound so me, it may be worth a re look. If a book or movie has 'real'
substance, it will appeal also to the greater awareness that develops.
IN other words, you will see a lot more than you did.
Im sure you find that with your music also.
>
> I know exactly what you mean when you say people experience these
> things naturally, there have been times when I've felt like I was
> completely lost in another world (but I was just in a dream state when
> this occured). It's almost like when you're half asleep and half awake
> you are more likely to have you're consiousness jump dimensions.
Most people are in a dream state most of the time. We have some great
'leaders' that demonstrate what it is like to be lost ..heheehe....
Sufigeorge just posted a good illustration of the physiological/
neurological system supports these shifts. Not sure if , like most,
believes that the shifts are caused by the neurology. They are effects
to support the 'projection', just as Tim's anger is supported by his
adrenaline.
>
> I wanted to ask you what you thought it might look like to someone who
> was, oh lets say, "immune" sort of to this supposed shift. Imagine
> that I am sitting on my couch when all of this begins, if my
> girlfriend was immune to it, would it appear to her that I was in a
> coma? Would there be any way she could communicate with me?
I suggest 'lots of practice' :-)...then you will be able to post your
answers here !
>
> Another thing I wanted to point out, was in the article, they speak of
> this dimension being the 3rd, and when this all occurs, our
> conciousness with shift into the 4th dimension. They also say that the
> 3rd dimension is sort of like a "tutorial level" of conciousness,
> where we manifest our destiny, but things could take weeks or months
> or even years to actually manifest, where as, in the 4th it's instant.
You can believe what 'they say', or you can find out for yourself.
Many manifest what they 'believe', and then are caught up in the
'they' mentality, otherwise known as 'group consciousness', which also
has many dimensions.
Just reading this ng confirms..most always express what 'we' or 'they'
believe. Knowing is not a group reality, in fact there is usually
conflict between the two realities. Groups are conservative by nature
(and nurture). "It' doesnt accomodate rebellion, for 'it' feels
undermined.This is why cults forbid contact with such individuals.
> This sort of makes me think (just as you pointed out above with the
> beatle's reference) that when an individual takes a hallucinagen not
> only is their mind altered, but perhaps they are experiencing a
> conciousness jump into the 4th dimension and then back again.
Not unlike the ref. to using steroids. Both 'artificial'. Cheating is
s good description, but cheating only oneself, with a big price to
pay.
Imagine what it would be like to take a 'musicians' pill, where you
suddenly could play an instrument?
I often used to fantasize about such a medication when I couldn't seem
to progress with my piano playing..:-)
The 'dimensions' overlap in a sense, and the consequence come without
the 'strength of character' that comes through natural development and
effort.
I was a kid in Liverpool, growing up at the Beatles time, and often
used to wonder why , with such talent, success and adulation, they
would need to 'experiment'?
I now know why.
>
> This really is very facinating stuff!
I cant think of anything more fascinating ..:-)
BOfL
