> On May 22, 11:17 pm, "Raktizer Omheit" iprimus.com.au> wrote:

>> The theory which claims that the universe began with the Big Bang
>> explosion
>> some 20 billion years ago has been taken as proof by some theologians for
>> the existence of God as a necessary cause for that explosion in the first
>> place, i.e. the argument which is known as the First Cause, Prime Mover,
>> or
>> Cosmological Argument. Such theologians argue that the primordial matter
>> which the Big Bang erupted from could not have created or caused itself
>> to
>> exist from the nothingness of outer space or the universe, unless God by
>> means of a miracle caused this to happen.
>>
>> In ancient, pagan or polytheist Greece, Aristotle came up with the
>> philosophical concept of the "uncaused cause," or Supreme Being, as the
>> explanation for the origin and cause of the Universe, which centuries
>> later
>> the Catholic Scholastic theologian Saint Thomas Aquinas refereed to as
>> "The
>> First Cause" or "Prime Mover," i.e. God Himself. Today, with the latest
>> discoveries and refinements in the realms of the 11-dimensional String
>> Theory, the 4-dimensional Special and General Theories of Relativity,
>> Quantum Physics, and Thermodynamics, it is argued that the primordial
>> matter
>> out of which the Big Bang erupted from could indeed have been created out
>> of
>> the nothingness of outer space, i.e. from Fluctuating Vacuum Energy to
>> use
>> the scientific term. Particle accelerator experiments around the world
>> everyday prove that matter can be created from energy and vice versa. It
>> is
>> also said that time itself began with the Big Bang, and that before the
>> Big
>> Bang there was no time, and that it is therefore scientifically and hence
>> logically meaningless to speculate about the cause of the Big Bang in the
>> first place.
>>
>> If the oscillating theory or Big Crunch theory for the Universe proves to
>> be
>> true, i.e. that there is so much dark matter out there that eventually
>> the
>> universe will stop expanding and begin contracting back into the
>> primordial
>> matter it originally came from, only to be followed by another Big Bang
>> infinitum, one still has to wonder how many Big Bangs and Big Crunches
>> there
>> have been so far? If there have been let's say 1 million Big Bangs and
>> Big
>> Crunches so far, what was there before the first Big Bang in the series
>> of 1
>> million? According to the latest scientific discoveries, the expansion of
>> the Universe is currently accelerating due to dark energy, and that the
>> end
>> result of this process if it continues forever is a dark, cold, lifeless
>> universe many billions of years from now, at least for this Universe, and
>> this four-dimensional space-time.
>>
>> There are estimated to be more than 200 billion billion stars [ i.e.
>> suns ]
>> in the Universe, of which our Sun is just a tiny miniscule of a
>> percentage
>> of. Many of these distant stars or suns probably have solar systems with
>> planets revolving around them, like our own solar system, and many of
>> these
>> planets probably have highly advanced, civilized, and intelligent life
>> forms
>> like planet earth. Many of these extra-solar planets probably also have
>> had
>> histories with multiple comet and asteroid strikes, and also
>> supervolcanic
>> eruptions from time to time, followed by periods of mass extinctions of
>> the
>> species living there, just like planet Earth has had.
>>
>> If one day a particle accelerator of sufficient length and power is
>> built,
>> the existence of tachyons, i.e. subatomic particles which can travel
>> faster
>> than the speed-of-light, or at superluminal speeds in other words, might
>> be
>> confirmed. It is speculated that the subatomic particles known as Higgs
>> Bosons would indeed turn out to be tachyons if they could be accelerated
>> beyond the speed-of-light. The cancelled 1993 SuperConducting Super
>> Collider
>> or SSC particle accelerator project in Waxahachie, Texas, U.S.A., with
>> the
>> ability to collide subatomic particles to the total energy level of 20
>> trillion electron volts, would have confirmed the existence of Higgs
>> Bosons,
>> which are speculated to be the basic building blocks of mass, and to be
>> the
>> cousins of the so far unconfirmed graviton particle. The largest particle
>> accelerator in being built today is the European Union owned Large
>> Hadron
>> Collider or LHC in Switzerland, which will only have the ability to
>> accelerate subatomic particles to the total energy level of 7 trillion
>> electron volts.
>>
>> Because of the vastness of intergalactic space, some stars [ i.e suns
>> and/or
>> solar systems ] and galaxies are so far away from planet Earth that the
>> light they send out may take thousands or even millions of years to reach
>> us, and in effect are shown as they were in the past. If millions of
>> highly
>> intelligent, dominant species from millions of planets have indeed
>> perfected
>> the technology of space travel at speeds faster than that of light, by
>> means
>> of the use of accelerated Higgs Bosons or Tachyons in other words, they
>> may
>> very well have surreptitiously visited and influenced the human species a
>> countless number of times in the past. Their ability to hide themselves
>> from
>> detection by means of human technology by the use of their own much more
>> advanced technology would at this stage be mind boggling for the human
>> species. The vehicles used by the Cherubim angels of God to visit the
>> prophet Ezekiel, as shown in the Book of Ezekiel chapters 1, 3, and 9 to
>> 10
>> [ The New King James Version of the Bible ], do resemble a U.F.O.
>> spacecraft
>> in many ways.
>>
>> If the monotheist God of Judaism, ancient Persian-Iranian-Elamite
>> Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Islam exists, one would also have to
>> speculate that Jesus Christ may have visited millions of planets for His
>> "First" Coming, been crucified, resurrected from the dead, and ascended
>> back
>> to Heaven millions of times, and returned for His "Second" Coming
>> millions
>> of times. One would also have to speculate that there are millions of
>> Satans, along with their following of millions of fallen angels, for
>> millions of planets, and that the Archangel Michael has had to do battle
>> millions of times, or that he has millions of loyal archangels like him.
>> See
>> Revelation 12 : 7 - 10. Of course, if the human species of planet Earth
>> survives long enough to develop commercially feasible hydrogen energy and
>> the related nuclear fusion technology, along with the ability to design
>> and
>> develop spacecraft which can successfully travel faster than the
>> speed-of-light or at superluminal speeds by means of accelerated Higgs
>> Bosons or Tachyons, then the end of the world prophecies of Jesus Christ,
>> Daniel, Isaiah, Joel, Ezekiel, St. Paul, and the New Testament Book of
>> Revelation might turn out to be false. If the end of the world prophecies
>> of
>> these above mentioned sources proves to be true, then there still might
>> be a
>> place for the microgravity or Materials Processing in Space [ MPS ]
>> experiments for electronics, metallurgy, pharmaceuticals, and biology on
>> board the International Space Station [ ISS ], as well as a place for
>> Genesis 1, Pslam 148, Psalm 104, Isaiah 11 : 6 - 9, Ezekiel 47 : 1 - 12,
>> Revelation 22 : 1 - 2, Ezekiel 1 : 22, Revelation 4 : 6, Mark 6 : 30 -
>> 56,
>> and Revelation 12 : 7 - 10 [ The New King James Version of the Bible ].
>>
>> As for the energy crisis of the U.S.A., it must be noted that from
>> October
>> 1973-March 1974, when the Arab oil embargo was on and when Egypt, Syria,
>> Iraq, Libya, and southern Yemen or Yemen Aden were pro-Soviet, some 12%%
>> of
>> the oil consumed in the U.S.A. came from the Middle East [ i.e. Turkey,
>> Cyprus, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Egypt,
>> Saudi
>> Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, The United Arab Emirates, Oman, and Yemen ]. In
>> 2004, some 15%% of the oil consumed in the U.S.A. came from the Middle
>> East,
>> whereas the figure for China was 55%%, and growing. Today, the biggest
>> potential enemies for the U.S.A. are Iran, Syria, China, and Russia. The
>> U.S.A. has military bases and spy bases in Greenland, The United Kingdom
>> [
>> which itself has bases in Gibraltar and Cyprus ], Germany, Italy, Spain,
>> Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Djibouti, the
>> British Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia, Australia [ Pine Gap ],
>> Guam,
>> Kwajalein, Japan, South Korea, Alaska, Hawaii, and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
>> The
>> sources of U.S. oil outside of the Middle East are the U.S.A., Canada,
>> Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Trinidad and Tobago, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia,
>> The United Kingdom, Norway, the former republics of the Soviet Union,
>> Nigeria, Gabon, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Sudan, Algeria, and
>> Libya.
>> Theoretically speaking, the U.S.A. could be self-sufficient in its oil
>> supplies by obtaining oil from its domestic deposits of oil shale rock,
>> bituminous tar sands, and coal, but the current technology in obtaining
>> oil
>> from these sources is still too expensive compared to the alternatives.
>> Although autogas, also known as LPG [ Liquified Petroleum Gas ], LNG [
>> Liquified Natural Gas ], and CNG [ Compressed Natural Gas ] is cleaner
>> and
>> in some places cheaper than petroleum, natural gas deposits are usually
>> found near petroleum deposits, and is therefore ultimately a
>> non-renewable
>> fossil fuel.
>>
>> The concept of predestination in theology oddly has its counterpart in
>> new
>> insights concerning studies involving the issue of genetic
>> predispositions
>> in family histories ad the case histories of repeat offenders or habitual
>> criminals who get caught, as opposed to the highly intelligent sociopaths
>> who use Machiavellian intelligence which enables them to usually get away
>> with their acts of evil and omissions of good deeds. Of course
>> predestination itself is a problematic concept for theologians because
>> God
>> is argued to be the one who makes people good, whereas it is Satan who
>> tempts people to commit acts of evil, or to avoid committing acts of
>> good.
>> In addition, according to I Timothy 2 : 1 - 4, II Peter 3 : 9, Jeremiah
>> 18,
>> and II Timothy 3 : 16, God wants everyone to be saved, people can choose
>> their destiny, and all of the Bile is inspired by God, and therefore this
>> implies that free will exists, although God is presumed to know ahead of
>> time what people will choose. With the sciences of heredity or genetics,
>> and
>> evolution, the need for the existence of God in order to make people
>> good,
>> and the existence of Satan to tempt people into committing acts of evil
>> and
>> avoiding acts of good, is rendered unneccessary. It can still be argued
>> that
>> religion serves its purpose in keeping many people from following an evil
>> way of life by means of the fear produced by eternal damnation, if their
>> consciences are not strong enough to make them revolted by the acts of
>> evil,
>> and the omissions of evil.
>>
>> The truthfulness of the Bible has also been called into question with the
>> theory of evolution as first brought to large scale attention with
>> Charles
>> Darwin, at least as regards a literal interpretation of the Creation
>> story
>> as put forth in the Book of Genesis. Also, new archaeological,
>> historiographical, paleographical and DNA testing discoveries are
>> challenging, modifying, and sometimes even discarding a literal
>> interpretation of the Bible quite frequently within academic circles.
>>
>> Maybe the nihilists are right, and there is no meaning and purpose in the
>> universe. Maybe the universe was created out of nothingness, and maybe
>> the
>> Fluctuating Vacuum Energy theory, as so often demonstrated in particle
>> accelerator experiments, is right. Maybe that nihilistic, absurdist moan
>> of
>> despair as uttered by William Shakespeare's character Macbeth that "Life,
>> tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing,"
>> is
>> correct. Personally, my common sense and gut feeling tells me that this
>> is
>> just too absurd and too unscientific to be true, and that energy could
>> not
>> have come from a vacuum or nothingness, unless God made this to happen by
>> means of the miracle, i.e. by supernatural divine intervention outside of
>> the currently known laws of physics, which, ironically, did not apply
>> with
>> the primordial ball of energy and matter out of which the Big Bang
>> erupted
>> from in the first place. This is what I believe in my hearts of hearts,
>> although even I have doubts from time to time, and will probably have so
>> while my soul remains in my living body. I however will place my bet on
>> the
>> probability that God exists, which for me is a higher probability than
>> God
>> not existing.

>
> 'Scuse me, but "...primordial matter out of which the Big Bang
> erupted"??? I don't follow. That primordial matter you speak of had to
> have existed in some type of matrix, time and space, that is. Before
> the BB time and space did not exist, so your premise has no reasoning
> to back it up. Try again.
>
> W : )
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