On May 22, 11:17 pm, "Raktizer Omheit" iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> The theory which claims that the universe began with the Big Bang explosion
> some 20 billion years ago has been taken as proof by some theologians for
> the existence of God as a necessary cause for that explosion in the first
> place, i.e. the argument which is known as the First Cause, Prime Mover, or
> Cosmological Argument. Such theologians argue that the primordial matter
> which the Big Bang erupted from could not have created or caused itself to
> exist from the nothingness of outer space or the universe, unless God by
> means of a miracle caused this to happen.
>
> In ancient, pagan or polytheist Greece, Aristotle came up with the
> philosophical concept of the "uncaused cause," or Supreme Being, as the
> explanation for the origin and cause of the Universe, which centuries later
> the Catholic Scholastic theologian Saint Thomas Aquinas refereed to as "The
> First Cause" or "Prime Mover," i.e. God Himself. Today, with the latest
> discoveries and refinements in the realms of the 11-dimensional String
> Theory, the 4-dimensional Special and General Theories of Relativity,
> Quantum Physics, and Thermodynamics, it is argued that the primordial matter
> out of which the Big Bang erupted from could indeed have been created out of
> the nothingness of outer space, i.e. from Fluctuating Vacuum Energy to use
> the scientific term. Particle accelerator experiments around the world
> everyday prove that matter can be created from energy and vice versa. It is
> also said that time itself began with the Big Bang, and that before the Big
> Bang there was no time, and that it is therefore scientifically and hence
> logically meaningless to speculate about the cause of the Big Bang in the
> first place.
>
> If the oscillating theory or Big Crunch theory for the Universe proves to be
> true, i.e. that there is so much dark matter out there that eventually the
> universe will stop expanding and begin contracting back into the primordial
> matter it originally came from, only to be followed by another Big Bang
> infinitum, one still has to wonder how many Big Bangs and Big Crunches there
> have been so far? If there have been let's say 1 million Big Bangs and Big
> Crunches so far, what was there before the first Big Bang in the series of 1
> million? According to the latest scientific discoveries, the expansion of
> the Universe is currently accelerating due to dark energy, and that the end
> result of this process if it continues forever is a dark, cold, lifeless
> universe many billions of years from now, at least for this Universe, and
> this four-dimensional space-time.
>
> There are estimated to be more than 200 billion billion stars [ i.e. suns ]
> in the Universe, of which our Sun is just a tiny miniscule of a percentage
> of. Many of these distant stars or suns probably have solar systems with
> planets revolving around them, like our own solar system, and many of these
> planets probably have highly advanced, civilized, and intelligent life forms
> like planet earth. Many of these extra-solar planets probably also have had
> histories with multiple comet and asteroid strikes, and also supervolcanic
> eruptions from time to time, followed by periods of mass extinctions of the
> species living there, just like planet Earth has had.
>
> If one day a particle accelerator of sufficient length and power is built,
> the existence of tachyons, i.e. subatomic particles which can travel faster
> than the speed-of-light, or at superluminal speeds in other words, might be
> confirmed. It is speculated that the subatomic particles known as Higgs
> Bosons would indeed turn out to be tachyons if they could be accelerated
> beyond the speed-of-light. The cancelled 1993 SuperConducting Super Collider
> or SSC particle accelerator project in Waxahachie, Texas, U.S.A., with the
> ability to collide subatomic particles to the total energy level of 20
> trillion electron volts, would have confirmed the existence of Higgs Bosons,
> which are speculated to be the basic building blocks of mass, and to be the
> cousins of the so far unconfirmed graviton particle. The largest particle
> accelerator in being built today is the European Union owned Large Hadron
> Collider or LHC in Switzerland, which will only have the ability to
> accelerate subatomic particles to the total energy level of 7 trillion
> electron volts.
>
> Because of the vastness of intergalactic space, some stars [ i.e suns and/or
> solar systems ] and galaxies are so far away from planet Earth that the
> light they send out may take thousands or even millions of years to reach
> us, and in effect are shown as they were in the past. If millions of highly
> intelligent, dominant species from millions of planets have indeed perfected
> the technology of space travel at speeds faster than that of light, by means
> of the use of accelerated Higgs Bosons or Tachyons in other words, they may
> very well have surreptitiously visited and influenced the human species a
> countless number of times in the past. Their ability to hide themselves from
> detection by means of human technology by the use of their own much more
> advanced technology would at this stage be mind boggling for the human
> species. The vehicles used by the Cherubim angels of God to visit the
> prophet Ezekiel, as shown in the Book of Ezekiel chapters 1, 3, and 9 to 10
> [ The New King James Version of the Bible ], do resemble a U.F.O. spacecraft
> in many ways.
>
> If the monotheist God of Judaism, ancient Persian-Iranian-Elamite
> Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Islam exists, one would also have to
> speculate that Jesus Christ may have visited millions of planets for His
> "First" Coming, been crucified, resurrected from the dead, and ascended back
> to Heaven millions of times, and returned for His "Second" Coming millions
> of times. One would also have to speculate that there are millions of
> Satans, along with their following of millions of fallen angels, for
> millions of planets, and that the Archangel Michael has had to do battle
> millions of times, or that he has millions of loyal archangels like him. See
> Revelation 12 : 7 - 10. Of course, if the human species of planet Earth
> survives long enough to develop commercially feasible hydrogen energy and
> the related nuclear fusion technology, along with the ability to design and
> develop spacecraft which can successfully travel faster than the
> speed-of-light or at superluminal speeds by means of accelerated Higgs
> Bosons or Tachyons, then the end of the world prophecies of Jesus Christ,
> Daniel, Isaiah, Joel, Ezekiel, St. Paul, and the New Testament Book of
> Revelation might turn out to be false. If the end of the world prophecies of
> these above mentioned sources proves to be true, then there still might be a
> place for the microgravity or Materials Processing in Space [ MPS ]
> experiments for electronics, metallurgy, pharmaceuticals, and biology on
> board the International Space Station [ ISS ], as well as a place for
> Genesis 1, Pslam 148, Psalm 104, Isaiah 11 : 6 - 9, Ezekiel 47 : 1 - 12,
> Revelation 22 : 1 - 2, Ezekiel 1 : 22, Revelation 4 : 6, Mark 6 : 30 - 56,
> and Revelation 12 : 7 - 10 [ The New King James Version of the Bible ].
>
> As for the energy crisis of the U.S.A., it must be noted that from October
> 1973-March 1974, when the Arab oil embargo was on and when Egypt, Syria,
> Iraq, Libya, and southern Yemen or Yemen Aden were pro-Soviet, some 12%% of
> the oil consumed in the U.S.A. came from the Middle East [ i.e. Turkey,
> Cyprus, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Egypt, Saudi
> Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, The United Arab Emirates, Oman, and Yemen ]. In
> 2004, some 15%% of the oil consumed in the U.S.A. came from the Middle East,
> whereas the figure for China was 55%%, and growing. Today, the biggest
> potential enemies for the U.S.A. are Iran, Syria, China, and Russia. The
> U.S.A. has military bases and spy bases in Greenland, The United Kingdom [
> which itself has bases in Gibraltar and Cyprus ], Germany, Italy, Spain,
> Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Djibouti, the
> British Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia, Australia [ Pine Gap ], Guam,
> Kwajalein, Japan, South Korea, Alaska, Hawaii, and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The
> sources of U.S. oil outside of the Middle East are the U.S.A., Canada,
> Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Trinidad and Tobago, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia,
> The United Kingdom, Norway, the former republics of the Soviet Union,
> Nigeria, Gabon, Angola, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Sudan, Algeria, and Libya.
> Theoretically speaking, the U.S.A. could be self-sufficient in its oil
> supplies by obtaining oil from its domestic deposits of oil shale rock,
> bituminous tar sands, and coal, but the current technology in obtaining oil
> from these sources is still too expensive compared to the alternatives.
> Although autogas, also known as LPG [ Liquified Petroleum Gas ], LNG [
> Liquified Natural Gas ], and CNG [ Compressed Natural Gas ] is cleaner and
> in some places cheaper than petroleum, natural gas deposits are usually
> found near petroleum deposits, and is therefore ultimately a non-renewable
> fossil fuel.
>
> The concept of predestination in theology oddly has its counterpart in new
> insights concerning studies involving the issue of genetic predispositions
> in family histories ad the case histories of repeat offenders or habitual
> criminals who get caught, as opposed to the highly intelligent sociopaths
> who use Machiavellian intelligence which enables them to usually get away
> with their acts of evil and omissions of good deeds. Of course
> predestination itself is a problematic concept for theologians because God
> is argued to be the one who makes people good, whereas it is Satan who
> tempts people to commit acts of evil, or to avoid committing acts of good.
> In addition, according to I Timothy 2 : 1 - 4, II Peter 3 : 9, Jeremiah 18,
> and II Timothy 3 : 16, God wants everyone to be saved, people can choose
> their destiny, and all of the Bile is inspired by God, and therefore this
> implies that free will exists, although God is presumed to know ahead of
> time what people will choose. With the sciences of heredity or genetics, and
> evolution, the need for the existence of God in order to make people good,
> and the existence of Satan to tempt people into committing acts of evil and
> avoiding acts of good, is rendered unneccessary. It can still be argued that
> religion serves its purpose in keeping many people from following an evil
> way of life by means of the fear produced by eternal damnation, if their
> consciences are not strong enough to make them revolted by the acts of evil,
> and the omissions of evil.
>
> The truthfulness of the Bible has also been called into question with the
> theory of evolution as first brought to large scale attention with Charles
> Darwin, at least as regards a literal interpretation of the Creation story
> as put forth in the Book of Genesis. Also, new archaeological,
> historiographical, paleographical and DNA testing discoveries are
> challenging, modifying, and sometimes even discarding a literal
> interpretation of the Bible quite frequently within academic circles.
>
> Maybe the nihilists are right, and there is no meaning and purpose in the
> universe. Maybe the universe was created out of nothingness, and maybe the
> Fluctuating Vacuum Energy theory, as so often demonstrated in particle
> accelerator experiments, is right. Maybe that nihilistic, absurdist moan of
> despair as uttered by William Shakespeare's character Macbeth that "Life,
> tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing," is
> correct. Personally, my common sense and gut feeling tells me that this is
> just too absurd and too unscientific to be true, and that energy could not
> have come from a vacuum or nothingness, unless God made this to happen by
> means of the miracle, i.e. by supernatural divine intervention outside of
> the currently known laws of physics, which, ironically, did not apply with
> the primordial ball of energy and matter out of which the Big Bang erupted
> from in the first place. This is what I believe in my hearts of hearts,
> although even I have doubts from time to time, and will probably have so
> while my soul remains in my living body. I however will place my bet on the
> probability that God exists, which for me is a higher probability than God
> not existing.
'Scuse me, but "...primordial matter out of which the Big Bang
erupted"??? I don't follow. That primordial matter you speak of had to
have existed in some type of matrix, time and space, that is. Before
the BB time and space did not exist, so your premise has no reasoning
to back it up. Try again.
W : )