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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 21, 2008 20:37
re: philosophy angle: sometimes Big Brotherism is morally justified
Ought the State intervene into peoples' personal lives with standards
for domestic relationships over-riding to peoples' religious beliefs.?
Yes, says the Supreme Court.
Thus Reynolds v U.S. outlawed polygamy in the 19th century: does
anybody reading this dissent and why so?
Meanwhile, I doubt if DNA is going to straighten out the apparent
"incestual" complexity, though hope it can some.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/us/22raid.html?ref=us
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Apr 22, 2008 08:35
On the issue of Muslim immigrants, my mom cited her own dad's
uncertainty about women going to college -- eventually he saw her
byline in a paper and was proud -- and said the state should
straighten out some immigrants' "funny" notions.
There's no reason to restrict this to immigrants.
Bret Cahill
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Author: EdEd Date: Apr 22, 2008 09:13
On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> On the issue of Muslim immigrants, my mom cited her own dad's
> uncertainty about women going to college -- eventually he saw her
> byline in a paper and was proud -- and said the state should
> straighten out some immigrants' "funny" notions.
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> There's no reason to restrict this to immigrants.
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> Bret Cahill
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>> re: philosophy angle: sometimes Big Brotherism is morally justified
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>> Ought the State intervene into peoples' personal lives with standards
>> for domestic relationships over-riding to peoples' religious beliefs.?
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>> Yes, says the Supreme Court.
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>> Thus Reynolds v U.S. outlawed polygamy in the 19th century: does ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Apr 22, 2008 10:50
>> On the issue of Muslim immigrants, my mom cited her own dad's
>> uncertainty about women going to college -- eventually he saw her
>> byline in a paper and was proud -- and said the state should
>> straighten out some immigrants' "funny" notions.
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>> There's no reason to restrict this to immigrants.
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>> Bret Cahill
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>>> re: philosophy angle: sometimes Big Brotherism is morally justified
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>>> Ought the State intervene into peoples' personal lives with standards
>>> for domestic relationships over-riding to peoples' religious beliefs.?
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>>> Yes, says the Supreme Court.
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>>> Thus Reynolds v U.S. outlawed polygamy in the 19th century: does
>>> anybody reading this dissent and why so?
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>>> Meanwhile, I doubt if DNA is going to straighten out the apparent ...
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 22, 2008 11:42
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 22, 2008 11:51
On Apr 22, 12:13 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
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>> On the issue of Muslim immigrants, my mom cited her own dad's
>> uncertainty about women going to college -- eventually he saw her
>> byline in a paper and was proud -- and said the state should
>> straighten out some immigrants' "funny" notions.
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>> There's no reason to restrict this to immigrants.
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>> Bret Cahill
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>>> re: philosophy angle: sometimes Big Brotherism is morally justified
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>>> Ought the State intervene into peoples' personal lives with standards
>>> for domestic relationships over-riding to peoples' religious beliefs.? ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Apr 22, 2008 15:00
For some reason there doesn't seem to be any arena where gummint is
more stupid and barbaric than when it gets involved with children in a
"dysfunctional situation." Nothing can match the horror stories
pouring out of state "child protection" agencies about uncaring,
incompetent hamstrung bureaucrats ruining young lives generating
arguments for future death row appeals. Even the euphemisms popular
with "case workers" indicate few really want to think about others'
families' problems.
> When somebody declares �(s)he's "libertarian," I perceive (s)he's
> foolishly dismissing the complexity of human culture
The Establishment Clause is libertarian on non economic matters, but
if a parent is starving his child, then it becomes a substantial
economic matter, certainly to the kid. If the state has to pay to
deal with victims and their actions, hospitalization, law enforcement
or other services, then obviously it's a state interest.
The reason there are many groups like Branch Davidians and fundy
Mormons in Texas is because TX is much like Mexico: If you don't
bother anyone, no one will bother you.
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 22, 2008 16:59
On Apr 22, 6:00 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> For some reason there doesn't seem to be any arena where gummint is
> more stupid and barbaric than when it gets involved with children in a
> "dysfunctional situation." Nothing can match the horror stories
> pouring out of state "child protection" agencies about uncaring,
> incompetent hamstrung bureaucrats ruining young lives generating
> arguments for future death row appeals. Even the euphemisms popular
> with "case workers" indicate few really want to think about others'
> families' problems.
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>> When somebody declares �(s)he's "libertarian," I perceive (s)he's
>> foolishly dismissing the complexity of human culture
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> The Establishment Clause is libertarian on non economic matters, but
> if a parent is starving his child, then it becomes a substantial
> economic matter, certainly to the kid. If the state has to pay to
> deal with victims and their actions, hospitalization, law enforcement
> or other services, then obviously it's a state interest.
>
> The reason there are many groups like Branch Davidians and fundy ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Apr 22, 2008 20:58
My favorite Southern writer, possibly my favorite American writer,
possibly my favorite writer period, Carson McCullers, started _Loney
Hunter_ in GA.
It's curious that my two favorite writers, Steinbeck and McCullers,
are the two ugliest people ever to be photographed.
If I ever saw either one on the street I'd take off running.
Bret Cahill
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Author: Robert CohenRobert Cohen Date: Apr 23, 2008 08:22
On Apr 22, 11:58 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> My favorite Southern writer, possibly my favorite American writer,
> possibly my favorite writer period, Carson McCullers, started _Loney
> Hunter_ in GA.
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> It's curious that my two favorite writers, Steinbeck and McCullers,
> are the two ugliest people ever to be photographed.
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> If I ever saw either one on the street I'd take off running.
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> Bret Cahill
writers /novels i've listened to on audio mp3, dvd and cassette the
past couple of years
stephen king, the green line, cap punishment
larry mcmurtry, a couple of his texas novels including his life as a
graduate student just starting out
not any steinbeck nor mccullers, tho i've previously read canary rod
and seen grapes of wrath more than once, "travels w/charlie" the mutt
was in my subscription to readers disgust years ago
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