>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
>through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
>Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on...

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther" wrote:
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>>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
>>through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
>>Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on God's
>>Presence in a Scientific World: Eds. Clayton and Peacocke, (William B
>>Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 2004). Davies argues that the
>>"general trend of matter-mind-culture is written into the laws of
>>nature at a fundamental level." So he even includes culture, which
>>implies that he gravitates toward an archetypal understanding of
>>teleological processes. In this essay he coins the term "teleology
>>without teleology".
>>

> A way of Davies is to assume personification of these emergent effects.
> Actually, IMO, all these effects are as impersonal as gravity. Any
> personification or "personhood" manifest from "higher dimension" is beyond
> any human consideration. Any experience is impersonal. We may tell stories
> otherwise, but those are hubris driven stories. Even we "humans" practice ...

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>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther" wrote:

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>>>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
>>>through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
>>>Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on God's
>>>Presence in a Scientific World: Eds. Clayton and Peacocke, (William B
>>>Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 2004). Davies argues that the
>>>"general trend of matter-mind-culture is written into the laws of
>>>nature at a fundamental level." So he even includes culture, which
>>>implies that he gravitates toward an archetypal understanding of
>>>teleological processes. In this essay he coins the term "teleology
>>>without teleology".

> ...

>
> God and the Universe are identical.
>
> The Earth is forming into a Global Brain.

> Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
> through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
> Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on God's
> Presence in a Scientific World: Eds. Clayton and Peacocke, (William B
> Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 2004). Davies argues that the
> "general trend of matter-mind-culture is written into the laws of
> nature at a fundamental level." So he even includes culture, which
> implies that he gravitates toward an archetypal understanding of
> teleological processes. In this essay he coins the term "teleology
> without teleology".
>
> He discusses a model of "uniform divine action" and says that "Laws
> are chosen because of the inherent self-organising and
> self-complexifying properties they confer to matter." In this
> "teleological" model, "there is room for human freedom, and room for
> inanimate systems to explore unforseen pathways into the future."
>
> The laws of complexity which introduce variety arise naturally from ...

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther" wrote:
>

>>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
>>through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
>>Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on God's
>>Presence in a Scientific World: Eds. Clayton and Peacocke, (William B
>>Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 2004). Davies argues that the
>>"general trend of matter-mind-culture is written into the laws of
>>nature at a fundamental level." So he even includes culture, which
>>implies that he gravitates toward an archetypal understanding of
>>teleological processes. In this essay he coins the term "teleology
>>without teleology".
>>

> A way of Davies is to assume personification of these emergent effects.
> Actually, IMO, all these effects are as impersonal as gravity. Any
> personification or "personhood" manifest from "higher dimension" is beyond
> any human consideration. Any experience is impersonal. We may tell stories
> otherwise, but those are hubris driven stories. Even we "humans" practice ...

>
> "Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
> news:61u2j31dg8hbkc61r0kvr1jolh44os344r@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther" wrote:
>>

>>>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design
>>>through emergent complexity in an essay in a book entitled: In Whom We
>>>Live and Move and Have Our Being - Panentheistic Reflections on God's
>>>Presence in a Scientific World: Eds. Clayton and Peacocke, (William B
>>>Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 2004). Davies argues that the
>>>"general trend of matter-mind-culture is written into the laws of
>>>nature at a fundamental level." So he even includes culture, which
>>>implies that he gravitates toward an archetypal understanding of
>>>teleological processes. In this essay he coins the term "teleology
>>>without teleology".
>>>

>> A way of Davies is to assume personification of these emergent effects.
>> Actually, IMO, all these effects are as impersonal as gravity. Any ...

> On Nov 7, 6:39 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> "Sir Frederick" fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther"
>>> wrote:

>>

>>>>Physicist Paul Davies discusses teleology and purposeful design

>> hand.

>
> God and the Universe are identical.
>
> The Earth is forming into a Global Brain.
>
> Why use all that fancy-schmansy language? ...

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>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:36 +0100, "M Winther" wrote:
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>>>Physicist...