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Author: alxcgn7alxcgn7 Date: Feb 28, 2008 13:06
Ted Bundy Philosopher?
Can someone confirm if the story here is true or not? Seems odd to me.
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/SexualImmorality/Homosexuality/HomoAndNaturalLaw...
I wonder if Miss Embler would find an answer to her question in the
following transcript of a recently discovered conversation with one of
his "victims" that Ted Bundy had taped. We will call her "Laura,"
although that was not her real name.2
Laura: Where have you taken me, Ted?
Bundy: To a place where no one can follow us--or find you--at least not
until long after I have disappeared--and you are dead.
Laura: What do you mean?
Bundy: What I mean is that I intend to rape and murder you.
Laura: Oh, my God, my God, why?
Bundy: Because, my dear, it will give me the greatest possible
pleasure to do so.
Laura: Please, please, spare me. Send for ransom, ask anything. I know
my parents and their families and friends will do anything to save my
life.
Bundy: But you fail to understand me. I don't want anything from
anyone else. It is raping and murdering you that I want, and nothing
can substitute for it. By the way, unless I have lost count, you will...
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Author: deadendDandeadendDan Date: Feb 28, 2008 14:04
> Ted Bundy Philosopher?
>
> Can someone confirm if the story here is true or not? Seems odd to me.
>
> http://famguardian.org/Subjects/SexualImmorality/Homosexuality/HomoAndNaturalLaw...
> I wonder if Miss Embler would find an answer to her question in the
> following transcript of a recently discovered conversation with one of
> his "victims" that Ted Bundy had taped. We will call her "Laura,"
> although that was not her real name.2
>
> Laura: Where have you taken me, Ted?
>
> Bundy: To a place where no one can follow us--or find you--at least not
> until long after I have disappeared--and you are dead.
>
> Laura: What do you mean?
>
> Bundy: What I mean is that I intend to rape and murder you. ...
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Author: THE BORGTHE BORG Date: Feb 28, 2008 14:41
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STOP STOP STOP! PUT THE BRAKES ON DAN!
CRASH!
Dan drives into a brick wall.
Told you it was a dead end Dan!
THE BORG
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Feb 29, 2008 07:58
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:04:38 -0500, deadendDan wrote:
> the age old struggle between good and evil
> As a manifest, virtue ....
I did not read the whole original post.. that's how much I rejected it!!
you sound pretty tooly-ish, btw.
What is interesting and worth considering is this 'good and evil' idea
Being one of those with "Joseph Mengele' (oh please!)
syndrome where absolute objectivity and intellectualism eventually takes
the mind" .............
Since you base your argument in a sort of slippery religious reckoning I
will join you.
You speak of 'good and evil' as absolutes and I am guessing you see them
as self-evident absolutes. However, back before such bimbo-ism took over
as the religious choirmaster, 'evil' and 'good' were related to the
actions of a person not the nature of the person.
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Author: deadendDandeadendDan Date: Feb 29, 2008 17:19
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.02.29.15.58.34@X.net...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:04:38 -0500, deadendDan wrote:
>
>> the age old struggle between good and evil
>> As a manifest, virtue ....
>
> I did not read the whole original post.. that's how much I rejected it!!
>
> you sound pretty tooly-ish, btw.
>
> What is interesting and worth considering is this 'good and evil' idea
>
> Being one of those with "Joseph Mengele' (oh please!)
> syndrome where absolute objectivity and intellectualism eventually takes
> the mind" .............
>
> Since you base your argument in a sort of slippery religious reckoning I
> will join you.
>
> You speak of 'good and evil' as absolutes and I am guessing you see them ...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Mar 1, 2008 08:51
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:19:54 -0500, deadendDan wrote:
> I once thought this too. But I observed how social campaigns with
> definite political agenda could 'change' an entire society's way of
> thinking, and thusly, the apparent 'truth' by which that society now
> follows.
>
> By your above argument, one might conclude that the magnet of truth is
> simply leading the donkey like a carrot on a stick; an evolution with
> destiny and deterministic movement.
Very nice. Yes, this is exactly my argument but your metaphor is off. It
puts 'truth' and donkey as being separate and that truth is a goal or a
point of arrival. 'Destiny' also infers a predetermined future.
This sense of separation is our basic contention, I think. I do not see
truth as something that can will win or can loose and so it is outside
conflict. Since you see it as being so contained, it then would follow
that one 'with it' would then need to exert 'power of will' over one
'without it'.
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Author: deadendDandeadendDan Date: Mar 1, 2008 16:18
"ZerkonX" X.net> wrote in message news:pan.2008.03.01.16.51.24@X.net...
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:19:54 -0500, deadendDan wrote:
>
>> I once thought this too. But I observed how social campaigns with
>> definite political agenda could 'change' an entire society's way of
>> thinking, and thusly, the apparent 'truth' by which that society now
>> follows.
>>
>> By your above argument, one might conclude that the magnet of truth is
>> simply leading the donkey like a carrot on a stick; an evolution with
>> destiny and deterministic movement.
>
> Very nice. Yes, this is exactly my argument but your metaphor is off. It
> puts 'truth' and donkey as being separate and that truth is a goal or a
> point of arrival. 'Destiny' also infers a predetermined future.
>
> This sense of separation is our basic contention, I think. I do not see
> truth as something that can will win or can loose and so it is outside
> conflict. Since you see it as being so contained, it then would follow
> that one 'with it' would then need to exert 'power of will' over one ...
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Mar 2, 2008 05:43
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:18:46 -0500, deadendDan wrote:
> But maybe I'm supposed to fight back; maybe I'm part of the answer, part
> of God's plan, to erect a defense in his name? Maybe this really is
> Satan and his villiany at work. I know I can only follow my nature,
> however it came to be, and RESIST what is about to take place.
>
> Well, I got way off OT here...sorry...and into a personal rant.
your world, tooley, is your world and yours alone. Not god's, not the
black hords, not the evil intellectuals or the barbarian invaders. You
are doing this to yourself and, I would suggest, for yourself. I am no
psychologist by any measure but you seem to be venting. Your devils seem
to be closer to home and not all that far away.
> I always sink back into my horrendous misery and suffering as my
> father's world is being given over to...well...ha...Obama for one. I
> mean, what's up with all this hero worship? This is Evlis Presley, the
> Beatles, Micheal Jackson...all rolled up into one. Woman is behind all
> this. My own woman strikes a dagger into my heart. Now, if that is not
> God speaking, I don't know what would be, ha.
Oh my, such self-pity.
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