One can regard a typewriter as a near blank slate, it simply records a
specific input with no modification or response other than the
recording function. This amounts to little more than a slate being
scratched.
Less of a blank state is a computer possessing programs/algorithms
capable of manipulating inputs to generate output that are more than
re-representations of the inputs. These outputs, depending on the
complexity of the programs and the variety and quantity of input data,
may approach a recognizable consensus as to what constitutes knowledge
or even intelligence.

This raises a problem for me in accepting the claim that brains of
sentient biological organisms are tabla rasa devoid of a priori
knowledge yet capable of complex responses to stimuli necessary for
their survival and reproduction. One can extend this to 'non-sentient'
organisms that are capable of reactions to exigent circumstances in a
manner conducive to high probability of survival/reproduction.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 12:04:06 -0800 (PST), zinnic gate.net> wrote:

On Feb 3, 5:54 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:

Utter crap, the ONLY rejection of man is born tabula rasa is ever done
by those who want man to believe he has no choice in his ideas and
actions.

Check out the socialists, their envy ridden anti-human disgusting
ideology stems from their belief that humans are no better and no
different to a fucking ant and or a rat in a pack and that he ought
therefore be treated as ants and rats.

Michael Gordge

On Feb 3, 5:04 am, zinnic gate.net> wrote:

Which is like an analogy, that a chunck or slab of rock denies the
"conditioning" of the shoulders being chipped away by wind wate
errosion, so as it can eventually form a ball shape and roll under
very strict conditions. (note; a ball of rock has no shoulders)

The removal of the shoulders from the boulder is only a part of the
"conditioning" required for a rock to roll. The other "conditioning
for a rock to roll" and which can happen ONLY AFTER its formed, are
gravtity, the surface conditions which it requires to roll upon, the
resistance of other factors e.g. wind and rain and of course the
socialist trying to deny the, now round, rock its nature, how? by
initiating and applying an UNATURAL physical force against it.

The capacity to reason is a fact of your nature, your nature is a part
of your identity, just as, under certain conditions a rock can
eventually get to roll, under certain conditions your mind is kick
started into gear, "kicked into gear" meaning, to begin the
identification process, REASONING.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:27:12 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

On Feb 3, 7:43 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:

I dont read the wiki crap if I can help it.

Now go to your wiki bible and find the MEANING of knowledge.

MG

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On Feb 3, 8:36 am, "Miller" chartermi.net> wrote:

Very well said Scott, you have checked out the meaning of knowledge.

Man identifies that which exists external of his mind therefore as
initiated by his eyes ears nose hands skin and the result becomes his
knowledge.

The rejection of man is born tablua rasa is the acceptance of the
unreasoned, which is NOT called KNOWLEDGE.

ALL of man's knowledge is reasoned.

Michael Gordge

On Feb 3, 9:43 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:

A long time ago I argued with a feminist that I was a chauvinist
pig by nature not nurture. Since then she has watched her male and
female children grow up and the children of other people grow up
and has conceded the dramatic influence of genetics. Genetics
determines our maximal limit, the environment determines how close
we can get to that limit. You can't make a silk purse out of a
sows ear but you still might end up making a better purse even
if it isn't made of silk.

Another related example was on the parental part of the environment
effecting the outcome of a child's behavior. I overheard two women
talking about this problem child. "Of course looking at the parent
we can see why" one of them commented (or words to that effect).
I asked if the child had any siblings. "Oh yes there is Johnny
and he is such a well behaved child". Then they realized the point
being made and went silent.

Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate" is a good popular coverage of
the arguments in my opinion.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:07:53 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

My apologies, my assumption here and why I have participated,
is that others are of at least average intelligence.
The culture is deteriorating.