> On Aug 5, 4:01 pm, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT), ta nc.rr.com> wrote:

>>>On Aug 5, 10:03 am, Sir Frederick fuzzysys.com> wrote:

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>>>> Possibly, for example, a good use of symbolism for "deeper"
>>>> understanding are Newton's laws, laws of motion and gravity.

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>>>> Our very perception is based on symbolism. I rant about our
>>>> personal virtual reality, it is fully made up of representations
>>>> and symbols. This allows for inferences and predictions not
>>>> apparent. This is understanding.

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>>>But you assume that there is nothing beyond those symbols and
>>>representations. If you allow for the possibility that there is
>>>something beyond that, then you can engage in the activity of personal
>>>experience and trial and error and find out for yourself. At that
>>>point, the metaphors and symbolism of "spirituality" may become as
>>>useful as the metaphors and symbolism of science.

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>> Been there. Done that. Hope smashed. I don't
>> practice those stories any more.

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> The stories are only meaningful after the experience. No shortcuts
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