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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Sean
Date: Sep 19, 2008 22:44

"John Jones" aol.com> wrote in message
news:gb1n01$7ed$1@aioe.org...
> Sean wrote:
>> "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
>> news:81d395a6-b282-4f15-a4ab-efc7f028a2b5@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> "Despite Grof's continued emphasis on the concept of "birth trauma" as
>> a critical psychic experience, mainstream psychiatry has not accepted
>> his concept (Grof, 1992). In fact, most professionals would argue that
>> such a conceptualization of retained memory falls outside of the
>> physiological potential of the newborn. "Despite the growing number of
>> reports of memories of past lives, life in the womb, and the birth
>> experience, there is no scientific evidence to substantiate these
>> claims" (Mark L. Howe and Mary L. Courage, 2004; also see Spanos,
>> 1996)."
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Grof -
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sean:
>> Great, so that locks that option out of the array of possibilites.
>> Excellent. Well done. You win. You're right. Can't argue with that.
>
> How does it lock out these possibilities? There are no experiments,
> period. The argument works both ways!!
>
> Don't let me stop you having a good time though.

Sean:

It doesn't lock out the possibilites except in Turtoni's own mind. He has
locked it out. That is what I was addressing. You knew that, of course, T's
still confused, and yes it;s alwasy good to have a good time. Enough daily
crap to deal with, so why not?
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