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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Sep 19, 2008 21:15
On Sep 20, 12:26В pm, John Jones aol.com> wrote:> Sean wrote:
>> "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
>>news:81d395a6-b282-4f15-a4ab-efc7f028a2b5@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> "Despite Grof's continued emphasis on the concept of "birth trauma" as
>> a critical psychic experience, mainstream psychiatry has not accepted
>> his concept (Grof, 1992). In fact, most professionals would argue that
>> such a conceptualization of retained memory falls outside of the
>> physiological potential of the newborn. "Despite the growing number of
>> reports of memories of past lives, life in the womb, and the birth
>> experience, there is no scientific evidence to substantiate these
>> claims" (Mark L. Howe and Mary L. Courage, 2004; also see Spanos,
>> 1996).">
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>> Sean:
>> Great, so that locks that option out of the array of possibilites.
>> Excellent. Well done. You win. You're right. Can't argue with that.
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> How does it lock out these possibilities? There are no experiments,
> period. The argument works both ways!!
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> Don't let me stop you having a good time though.- Hide quoted text -
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That last sentence stems from one who believes argument somehow
expands consciousness.The belief (not arrogance in your case, but is
wth many) that you can actually do that ie, effect Sean's day :-).
Arguments "always" work both ways. They are a way of seeking wisdom by
confirmation/confrontation. Visionaries, in any field, including
science, always evoke antagonism. Freud 'knew' how the brain rewired
with psychoanalasys for instance, long befor the field of neuro
plasticity was discovered, with the advent of brain scanners.Others
argued with him, in he belief that the brain was affected only
biologically.He didnt need to argue, which has a significant
psychological impact on his detractors.
They invariably get 'personal' ..:-).
BOfL
BOfL
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