On Sep 19, 5:39В pm, "Sean"
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>>>>A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>>>> patients.
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>>>> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>>>> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
>>>> experiences.
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>>>> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
>>>> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.
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>>>> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
>>>> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
>>>> seen from above.
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>>>> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
>>>> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
>>>> only from the ceiling.
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>>>> Dr Sam Parnia, who is heading the study, said: "If you can demonstrate
>>>> that consciousness continues after the brain switches off, it allows
>>>> for the possibility that the consciousness is a separate entity.
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>>>> "It is unlikely that we will find many cases where this happens, but
>>>> we have to be open-minded.
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>>>> "And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are
>>>> illusions or false memories.
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>>>> "This is a mystery that we can now subject to scientific study."
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>>>> Dr Parnia works as an intensive care doctor, and felt from his daily
>>>> duties that science had not properly explored the issue of near-death
>>>> experiences.
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>>>> He said: "Contrary to popular perception, death is not a specific
>>>> moment.
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>>>> "It is a process that begins when the heart stops beating, the lungs
>>>> stop working and the brain ceases functioning - a medical condition
>>>> termed cardiac arrest.
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>>>> "During a cardiac arrest, all three criteria of death are present.
>>>> There then follows a period of time, which may last from a few seconds
>>>> to an hour or more, in which emergency medical efforts may succeed in
>>>> restarting the heart and reversing the dying process.
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>>>> "What people experience during this period of cardiac arrest provides
>>>> a unique window of understanding into what we are all likely to
>>>> experience during the dying process."
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>>>> Dr Parnia and medical colleagues will analyse the brain activity of
>>>> 1,500 cardiac arrest survivors, and see whether they can recall the
>>>> images in the pictures.
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>>>> Hospitals involved include Addenbrookes in Cambridge, University
>>>> Hospital in Birmingham and the Morriston in Swansea, as well as nine
>>>> hospitals in the US.
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>>> So if instead, a child of six, 10 years later reported to their father
>>> who
>>> was a doctor at one of hospitals in 2008, spontaneously detailed out one
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>>> the said "images" then this would scientifically prove "reincarnation"
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>>> well as OOBE as being real ?
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>>> But I have another question. If one, in the middle of OOBE was so
>>> engrossed
>>> with the light, and discussions with other souls also disembodied, but
>>> neglected to notice said pictures and so failed to report it, then this
>>> would obviously prove that there is no such thing as consciousness being
>>> separate from the body.
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>>> This is what we call science and reason? mmmmmmmmmmm fascinating.
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>>> But at least they are "trying". But are they trying to prove it or
>>> disprove
>>> it? Sounds like the latter, because the experiment design is so lame and
>>> irrational.
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>>> BTW studies in hospitals has already been done. Most don't accept the
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>> We think of the potential chaos in world economics, if the petro
>> dollar economy was rapidly disbanded.
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>> Thats NOTHING in comparison to the proving of OOBE and reincarnation.
>> Of course the irony is, the organisations mostly impacted, are the
>> very ones doing the experimenting.
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>> We know the oil wil run out, so there are planned chanover stratagies
>> in place, but "we"also know that the consciousness of the intellect
>> 'never' runs out, and power seeking is always present amongst the
>> members.
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>> See you on the 'road less travelled' :-)
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>> BOfL
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>> Hey, not if I see you first.
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>> If you see Buddha on the road, I was told to kill him. hehehehehe
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>> So beware where you jog, I'm heading north for a holiday, and I quite like
>> Main Beach!!! LOL- Hide quoted text -
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> Great. Lets meet.
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> BOfL
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> I'll email you B, am driving thru one day while up there 4 wedding and
> seeing the kiddlets. actually they are more like adults now. :)- Hide quoted text -
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I look foward to it :-)
B
