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Author: Sean
Date: Sep 18, 2008 19:22

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On Sep 19, 9:42 am, "Sean" now.com.au> wrote:
> "turtoni" fastmail.net> wrote in message
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>>A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>> patients.
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>> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
>> experiences.
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>> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
>> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.
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>> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
>> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
>> seen from above.
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>> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
>> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
>> only from the ceiling.
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>> Dr Sam Parnia, who is heading the study, said: "If you can demonstrate
>> that consciousness continues after the brain switches off, it allows
>> for the possibility that the consciousness is a separate entity.
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>> "It is unlikely that we will find many cases where this happens, but
>> we have to be open-minded.
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>> "And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are
>> illusions or false memories.
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>> "This is a mystery that we can now subject to scientific study."
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>> Dr Parnia works as an intensive care doctor, and felt from his daily
>> duties that science had not properly explored the issue of near-death
>> experiences.
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>> He said: "Contrary to popular perception, death is not a specific
>> moment.
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>> "It is a process that begins when the heart stops beating, the lungs
>> stop working and the brain ceases functioning - a medical condition
>> termed cardiac arrest.
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>> "During a cardiac arrest, all three criteria of death are present.
>> There then follows a period of time, which may last from a few seconds
>> to an hour or more, in which emergency medical efforts may succeed in
>> restarting the heart and reversing the dying process.
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>> "What people experience during this period of cardiac arrest provides
>> a unique window of understanding into what we are all likely to
>> experience during the dying process."
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>> Dr Parnia and medical colleagues will analyse the brain activity of
>> 1,500 cardiac arrest survivors, and see whether they can recall the
>> images in the pictures.
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>> Hospitals involved include Addenbrookes in Cambridge, University
>> Hospital in Birmingham and the Morriston in Swansea, as well as nine
>> hospitals in the US.
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> So if instead, a child of six, 10 years later reported to their father who
> was a doctor at one of hospitals in 2008, spontaneously detailed out one
> of
> the said "images" then this would scientifically prove "reincarnation" as
> well as OOBE as being real ?
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> But I have another question. If one, in the middle of OOBE was so
> engrossed
> with the light, and discussions with other souls also disembodied, but
> neglected to notice said pictures and so failed to report it, then this
> would obviously prove that there is no such thing as consciousness being
> separate from the body.
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> This is what we call science and reason? mmmmmmmmmmm fascinating.
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> But at least they are "trying". But are they trying to prove it or
> disprove
> it? Sounds like the latter, because the experiment design is so lame and
> irrational.
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> BTW studies in hospitals has already been done. Most don't accept the
> personal reports of those patients either.- Hide quoted text -
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We think of the potential chaos in world economics, if the petro
dollar economy was rapidly disbanded.

Thats NOTHING in comparison to the proving of OOBE and reincarnation.
Of course the irony is, the organisations mostly impacted, are the
very ones doing the experimenting.

We know the oil wil run out, so there are planned chanover stratagies
in place, but "we"also know that the consciousness of the intellect
'never' runs out, and power seeking is always present amongst the
members.

See you on the 'road less travelled' :-)

BOfL
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Hey, not if I see you first.

If you see Buddha on the road, I was told to kill him. hehehehehe

So beware where you jog, I'm heading north for a holiday, and I quite like
Main Beach!!! LOL
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