>A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>patients.
>
>Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>people with no heartbeat or brain activity can...

> Of course, after the absolute strangeness of the fact
> of existence its self, anything could happen or be, but from
> an engineering perspective, when the physical basis for something
> breaks down, that something ceases to be. In this case, as the break down is
> occurring, qualia producing neural structures may continue function for a while,
> as may memory functions. Hence your "near-death" experience memories.

>On Sep 18, 1:00 pm, A Situation nothing.com> wrote:

>> Of course, after the absolute strangeness of the fact
>> of existence its self, anything could happen or be, but from
>> an engineering perspective, when the physical basis for something
>> breaks down, that something ceases to be. In this case, as the break down is
>> occurring, qualia producing neural structures may continue function for a while,
>> as may memory functions. Hence your "near-death" experience memories.

>
>"others recall looking down from the ceiling at medical staff."
>
>"placing on shelves images that could only be seen from above."
>
>"And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are
>illusions or false memories."

> A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
> patients.
>
> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
> experiences.
>
> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.
>
> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
> seen from above.
>
> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
> only from the ceiling.
>
> Dr Sam Parnia, who is heading the study, said: "If you can demonstrate ...

> turtoni wrote:

>> A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>> patients.

>

>> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
>> experiences.

>

>> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
>> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.

>

>> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
>> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
>> seen from above.

>

>> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
>> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
>> only from the ceiling.

> ...

> On Sep 18, 11:21 am, John Jones aol.com> wrote:

>> turtoni wrote:

>>> A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>>> patients.
>>> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>>> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
>>> experiences.
>>> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
>>> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.
>>> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
>>> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
>>> seen from above.
>>> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
>>> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
>>> only from the ceiling.
>>> Dr Sam Parnia, who is heading the study, said: "If you can demonstrate
>>> that consciousness continues after the brain switches off, it allows
>>> for the possibility that the consciousness is a separate entity.
>>> "It is unlikely that we will find many cases where this happens, but ...

>A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
> patients.
>
> Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
> people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
> experiences.
>
> Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall
> looking down from the ceiling at medical staff.
>
> The study, due to take three years and co-ordinated by Southampton
> University, will include placing on shelves images that could only be
> seen from above.
>
> To test this, the researchers have set up special shelving in
> resuscitation areas. The shelves hold pictures - but they're visible
> only from the ceiling.
> ...

> Of course, after the absolute strangeness of the fact
> of existence its self, anything could happen or be, but from
> an engineering perspective, when the physical basis for something
> breaks down, that something ceases to be. In this case, as the break down is
> occurring, qualia producing neural structures may continue function for a while,
> as may memory functions. Hence your "near-death" experience memories.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----------
>
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:36:02 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

>>A large study is to examine near-death experiences in cardiac arrest
>>patients.

>

>>Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if
>>people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body"
>>experiences.

>

>>Some people report seeing a tunnel or bright light, others recall ...

> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:13:49 -0700 (PDT), turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:

>>On Sep 18, 1:00 pm, A Situation nothing.com> wrote:

>>> Of course, after the absolute strangeness of the fact
>>> of existence its self, anything could happen or be, but from
>>> an engineering perspective, when the physical basis for something
>>> breaks down, that something ceases to be. In this case, as the break down is
>>> occurring, qualia producing neural structures may continue function for a while,
>>> as may memory functions. Hence your "near-death" experience memories.

>

>>"others recall looking down from the ceiling at medical staff."

>

>>"placing on shelves images that could only be seen from above."

>

>>"And if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are
>>illusions or false memories."

>
> The human brain is structured so as to compulsively confabulate any perception
> and/or consideration into a scenario that provides "understanding", or that
> "makes sense". Many examples in the literature on experiments showing ...