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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Mike Schilling
Date: Sep 4, 2008 09:45

Jerry Kraus wrote:
> On Sep 3, 12:44 pm, Alexey Romanov wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:46:46 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>> On Sep 2, 4:59 pm, "Mike Schilling" hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 2, 4:02 pm, "Mike Schilling"
>>>>> hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jerry Kraus wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I do believe in set theory. Did you know it was
>>>>>>> deveoped in the third century B.C. in China? The examples in
>>>>>>> the White Horse Dialogue effectively outline the basics of set
>>>>>>> theory and predicate calculus over 2,000 years before they
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> supposedly developed.
>>
>>>>>> How did they get around Russell's paradox?
>>
>>>>> Must they have gotten around Russell's paradox to outline the
>>>>> basics of set theory and predicate calculus? Must they have
>>>>> thought of Russell's paradox? Why?
>>
>>>>> Could you possibly be any more rigid? If so, how?
>>
>>>> I'm not saying that they had to *call* it Russell's Paradox. [1]
>>>> But noting that you can't assume that every predicate defines a
>>>> set (because doing so leads to a contradiction) is a basic result
>>>> in set theory. If they didn't get that far, they didn't have
>>>> much.
>>
>>>> 1. Though that would have been pretty impressive.- Hide quoted
>>>> text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> They gotten as far as the West had, prior to the twentieth
>>> century.
>>
>> So they knew about the existence of countable and uncountable sets
>> and could prove line segments to be uncountable? That's really
>> impressive. --
>> Alexey Romanov- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> They knew about sets, subsets, unions of sets, complementation and
> cartesian products of sets. All in 300 B.C. Yes, that is really
> impressive!

That is, they could do the equivalent of simple arithmetic with sets.
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