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Author: Dan DrakeDan Drake Date: Sep 2, 2008 13:22
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:53 UTC, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com>
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Sep 2, 2008 13:56
On Sep 2, 3:22 pm, "Dan Drake" dandrake.com> wrote:> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:35:53 UTC, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com>
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>>> On Aug 28, 5:51ÿpm, thro...@ sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote: >>> : Jerry Kraus yahoo.com>
>>> : Galileo was not presenting an alternative conception of the universe.
>>> : He was attacking the existing one,>
>>> So you admit it had nothing to do with whether he had evidence or not.
>>> Since (you now claim) he didn't present any alternative (eg, didn't
>>> present a heliocentric alternative). ÿIf he wasn't presenting a position,
>>> lack of evience for his position can't haee been an issue.
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>>> : As such, he was a major threat to social stability.
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Date: Sep 2, 2008 13:57
>Oh. right. You're aware, of course, that Newton really was a heretic.
>Knowing about this, the authorities turned a blind eye to the requirements
>for orthodoxy in Newton's professorship. Slight difference in treatment
>there; almost seems to matter what jurisdiction you operate under.
Specifically, Newton disbelieved in the '3 as 1' aspect of the holy
trinity. In England at that time, professing that belief publically would
get you hanged. So he didn't.
A lot of Newton's personal life (especially his deep religious beliefs) has
only come to light in the last few years with the discovery/sale of a lot of
his coded papers. One thing I've never heard the answer to is *how* he
managed to sidestep the ordainment requirement for all Cambridge faculty.
He must have had something on someone.
>But then, Newton never got in personal disputes or insulted anybody or
>anything.
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Author: David DeLaneyDavid DeLaney Date: Sep 2, 2008 15:54
>>Oh. right. You're aware, of course, that Newton really was a heretic.
>>Knowing about this, the authorities turned a blind eye to the requirements
>>for orthodoxy in Newton's professorship. Slight difference in treatment
>>there; almost seems to matter what jurisdiction you operate under.
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>Specifically, Newton disbelieved in the '3 as 1' aspect of the holy
>trinity. In England at that time, professing that belief publically would
>get you hanged. So he didn't.
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>A lot of Newton's personal life (especially his deep religious beliefs) has
>only come to light in the last few years with the discovery/sale of a lot of
>his coded papers. One thing I've never heard the answer to is *how* he
>managed to sidestep the ordainment requirement...
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Sep 3, 2008 07:49
>>>Oh. right. You're aware, of course, that Newton really was a heretic.
>>>Knowing about this, the authorities turned a blind eye to the requirements
>>>for orthodoxy in Newton's professorship. Slight difference in treatment
>>>there; almost seems to matter what jurisdiction you operate under.
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>>Specifically, Newton disbelieved in the '3 as 1' aspect of the holy
>>trinity. In England at that time, professing that belief publically would
>>get you hanged. So he didn't.
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>>A lot of Newton's personal life (especially his deep religious beliefs) has
>>only come to light in the last few years with the discovery/sale of a lot of
>>his coded papers. One thing I've never heard the answer to is *how* he
>>managed to sidestep the ordainment requirement for all Cambridge faculty.
>>He must have had something on someone.
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> ObSF: Stephenson's _Quicksilver_, _The Confusion_, _The System of the World_.
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Author: Dan DrakeDan Drake Date: Sep 3, 2008 15:37
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:56:16 UTC, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com>
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Date: Sep 5, 2008 14:45
>>his coded papers. One thing I've never heard the answer to is *how* he
>>managed to sidestep the ordainment requirement for all Cambridge faculty.
>>He must have had something on someone.
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>ObSF: Stephenson's _Quicksilver_, _The Confusion_, _The System of the World_.
Indeed. I was amused to find when I read it that Stephenson not only
researched Newton extensively, he was actually *current* in his research.
A lot of about Newton's personal life was fairly new news when Quicksilver
was first published. Or maybe it went the other way around, and the Newton
papers are what formed the germ of the book in his mind. Dunno. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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