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SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Date: Sep 4, 2007 08:36

You know, I get mad too when people take my Darwin books- but since
I'm an atheist, I don't believe in killing them for it.

Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--trunkbody0901sep01,0...

HARTFORD, Conn. - A Windsor man was sentenced Friday to 50 years in
prison after admitting he kidnapped and killed his 18-year-old stepson
less than a week after the victim's mother filed for divorce.
...
Calvert Wray said in court Friday that he "snapped" after discovering
that his Bible was gone.

--
Yang
a.a.#28

"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Date: Sep 4, 2007 10:14

You missed another Christian no-no in the story. He was getting a
divorce? You're kind of falling off your game. Are you getting
enough sleep? We need you to be in top form otherwise some people
might think that everyone who calls himself/herself a Christian or
owns a Bible is perfect.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: GatherNoMoss
Date: Sep 4, 2007 11:14

This has absolutely zilch to do with Christianity.

One of the 10 Commandments clearly states "Thou shall not kill".

Then you find a story about murder and blame it on Christianity.

It makes no sense at all.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: Denis Loubet
Date: Sep 4, 2007 12:47

gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188926099.733723.91570@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> You missed another Christian no-no in the story. He was getting a
> divorce? You're kind of falling off your game. Are you getting
> enough sleep? We need you to be in top form otherwise some people
> might think that everyone who calls himself/herself a Christian or
> owns a Bible is perfect.

Ok, so Christians are not morally superior to atheists? Then what's the
frickin' point of Christianity?

--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Date: Sep 4, 2007 14:04

>
> Ok, so Christians are not morally superior to atheists? Then what's the
> frickin' point of Christianity?
>

An excellent question. For myself (I cannot speak for everyone who
call themselves a Christian - obviously), I recognize my own
shortcoming (of which there are many) and realize that there is no way
that on my own I can measure up to God's standard of being "good".
BUT in spite of my "evilness" God chose to love (and everyone) and
provided with with a free gift of redemption so that I can be made
"right/acceptable" in Gods eyes. The point of my life is twofold 1.)
accept Gods gift, 2.) as a Christian to return God's love out of
gratitude for what He has done for me (not because I am trying to earn
something that I could never earn).

This does not mean I wont ever screw up, but it does mean that no
matter how bad I screw up God will still love me and forgive me.

Sorry if this sounds preachy, but you did ask.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: Al Klein
Date: Sep 4, 2007 14:26

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:14:46 -0700, GatherNoMoss
yahoo.com> wrote:
> This has absolutely zilch to do with Christianity.
>
> One of the 10 Commandments clearly states "Thou shall not kill".
>
> Then you find a story about murder and blame it on Christianity.
>
> It makes no sense at all.

The Christian claim is that Christians are morally superior to
non-Christians. This man is a Christian and killed his stepson,
making him morally INFERIOR to almost every atheist who has ever
lived.

It makes perfect sense to point out the hypocrisy called Christianity.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: Michael Gordge
Date: Sep 4, 2007 14:38

On Sep 5, 12:36 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" mail.com>
wrote:
> You know, I get mad too when people take my Darwin books- but since
> I'm an atheist, I don't believe in killing them for it.
>
> Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority

No different and no less disgusting and no more evil in principle and
potential to that Kantian mumbojumbo which gives rise to the deeds of
the tribalist, the witch-doctor, the voodooist, the socialist, the
greater goodist, the communist and the fucking fascist.

Michael Gordge
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Date: Sep 4, 2007 14:49

>> no
>>matter how bad I screw up God will still love me and forgive me.
>
> So what's hell all about then?
> If everybody gets forgiven, whence morality?
>
> NB There is no god.

Once again, these are my beliefs, I don't intend to infer them on
anyone else.

God must judge sin (sin being rebellion against God) . If I accept
God's gift of redemption, then I accept God's payment for my sin.
If I don't accept God's gift of redemption, then I am responsible for
paying for my sins myself (i.e. God will punish me).

Note that my own self-worth is not a factor. It is not because I am
morally superior to other that makes we acceptable to God, rather it
is my recognition that I am so inferior and as such that I am
dependent upon God for salvation.
God's love by offering the gift of redemption is universal, the
acceptance of that gift is not.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: Denis Loubet
Date: Sep 4, 2007 16:41

gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>>
>> Ok, so Christians are not morally superior to atheists? Then what's the
>> frickin' point of Christianity?
>>
>
> An excellent question. For myself (I cannot speak for everyone who
> call themselves a Christian - obviously), I recognize my own
> shortcoming (of which there are many) and realize that there is no way
> that on my own I can measure up to God's standard of being "good".

Why not? Why did the god set up unattainable goals?
> BUT in spite of my "evilness" God chose to love (and everyone) and
> provided with with a free gift of redemption so that I can be made
> "right/acceptable" in Gods eyes.

Are you sure there are no strings attached? Free gifts have no strings.
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Re: SoT Christianity: Christian Man Kills 18 YO Step-Son For Taking His Bible         


Author: Robibnikoff
Date: Sep 4, 2007 17:00

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>
>>> no
>>>matter how bad I screw up God will still love me and forgive me.
>>
>> So what's hell all about then?
>> If everybody gets forgiven, whence morality?
>>
>> NB There is no god.
>
>
> Once again, these are my beliefs, I don't intend to infer them on
> anyone else.
>
> God must judge sin (sin being rebellion against God) .
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