On Jul 16, 11:33Â am, "TruthSlave"
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> The word sorry can be such a powerful word, Â so powerful it is withheld
> for that reason by the powerful.
On that basis, the word isnt powerful, but like many words, is an
expression of intent, which can extreme.
>Â This doesn't mean our use of the word
> isn't qualified. Our use of 'Sorry' doesn't make its unconditional so that
> it applies to everything. Â I can say I am sorry for your pain, without saying
> I am guilty or directly responsible for your wrong.
You illustrate my point by providing a variety of interpretations.
It is a 'word of convenience' , the over use, like antibiotics,
diminishes the effect.
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> There again to say sorry and not mean it, or say sorry and then do the
> same thing again, might also be a reason to withhold its use.
To 'not mean it', requires a contextual understanding.
>The word
> becomes a memory, the most recent summary of events. Some would
> sooner all memory remained buried in the past, forgotten, not renewed
> by the word.
Then it would be contradictory to be sorry someone has developed
Altzheimers. Extreme example based on a speculation the this is why
such diseases occur, but if it was true, it would be silly to be sorry
that someone else has eliminated their need to be sorry.
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> So how do you communicate empathy? Empathy without recourse to
> language? Assumed from our reactions, when our reactions aren't always
> what they seem.
Ever been in an audience, at a Beethoven concert, and looked around at
the faces, when the 'Pastoral' is being played.
I would lable sympathy as reaction (second hand response and therefor
'not what it seems') and empathy an 'internal response' that can be
sgared but not communicated in the normal sense.
One can be empathetic to anothers circumstance, without it being
recipricated. Reciprication is not a requirement.
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> 'I'm Not yet ready to connect'.
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> Is this the powerful speaking? 'Not ready to connect?', as oppose to
> what? 'Not yet ready to understand?' Please explain this relationship.
The more empathetic one becomes, the more one recognises the other
persons situation. Example would be giving councelling to someone who
is in the middle of a 'domestic'. They make it very clear the time is
not right.
In fact, the greater the empathy, the less the power. Like the concert
example, there is no need to use the power of argument to the
initiated.
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>> There are about 1 billion Cathlics that subscribe to that approach.
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> I can see the sense in which 'Sorry' might be used without virtue or
> meaning, yet its use, does create that sense in us of its importance.
Many uses for many levels of consciousness.
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> This is as much about the absence of the word, as the use of the word.
> If we didn't know the word, weren't trained with the word, there would
> be no sense of its absence. The child trained properly on its use, learns
> to sense this schism in its behaviour. There again, there are ways to
> appease us of this conflict. Exchanges offered in the culture to reconcile
> this innate sense between the resolved and the unresolved. This is perhaps
> what you refer to above as the 'excuse for inappropriate behaviour'.
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> Three Hail Mary's and all is for given. This alternative form occupying
> the 'space' of an apology. Reconciling the act and what we choose to call
> our conscience.
Good examples of my last commen t
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>> Not when you 'love life".
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> Such a deep statement, yet even that would need to be qualified.
> Does the Ant see the microbe as life?
Does the cell in the eye of the beholder, see other cells?
Im not sorry we are having this conversation:-)
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