Re: Some Women Cannot Be Raped.
  Home FAQ Contact Sign in
alt.philosophy only
 
Advanced search
POPULAR GROUPS

more...

 Up
Re: Some Women Cannot Be Raped.         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: tooly
Date: Jul 13, 2007 11:43

"Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184349792.905970.54840@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 12, 8:41 pm, kmurphy...@houston.rr.com wrote:
>>
>> I tend to have very intimate relationships with women and it is hard on
>> them
>> because if they think that the world is lying to them then I'm likely to
>> find out about it since, in a way, I'm part of the world that is lying to
>> them. My girlfriend is not afraid of being raped because it is not
>> possible
>> to rape her. She can snap her pussy closed so tight that a man couldn't
>> get
>> in there with a pyle driver even with her legs splayed open. She only
>> has
>> an IQ of about 80 or so but she probably thinks that she is smarter than
>> most other woman and who can blame her. Admit it, feminists, my
>> girlfriend
>> is smarter than you and I'm smarter than you for having known her. Let
>> my
>> girlfriend take you to school on pussy control.
>>
>
> I was poking through a couple of my pimpology manuals and found a
> couple of things that seem to address the issues you are raising.
> Please point to anything that hits the bulls-eye below.
>
> Click the play button quickly before password thingy comes up;
> http://katieakemi.imeem.com/music/oXLosnPk/ugly/
>
> WOMEN'S SOCIAL SKILLS
>
> Grammar's study of modern courtship showed that women are socially
> more astute than men. They orchestrate social interactions so
> skillfully that they can control their date, even when the man
> believes he is running the show. The view that women arc more verbal
> than men is more than a stereotype. Women score higher on verbal
> tests, speak more words in a day, are quicker to verbal aggression,
> are more articulate, get verbal responses out rapidly, have more
> friends, and spend longer amounts of time speaking to them on the
> telephone. Moreover, when women talk, they reveal more intimate and
> meaningful information about themselves. Women are better listeners.
> They tend not to let their attention wander in the middle of a long
> story. They are more willing to offer comfort to another person a sex
> difference in empathy that is present even in young children.
>
> Women are more skilled in reading and using body language. countless
> laboratory experiments have showed that they are more skilled at
> reading facial expressions and detecting nonverbal signs of lying, for
> example. This research backs up the findings of field studie on
> courtship interactions.
>
> Psychologists often point to different childhood influences in order
> to explain why women have better interpersonal skills. They argue that
> giving a doll to a little girl and giving a tool set to a little boy
> conveys important messages about the kind of skills each needs to
> develop. While this may be true, it is also true that boys and girls
> differ in their inclinations regardless of how they are treated, a
> point already made for the development of aggression in boys. Parents
> who strive to inculcate nonviolence in their sons by keeping them away
> from violent toys and violent TV are often alarmed to discover that
> the boys imaginatively turn common objects into weapons of
> destruction. Sticks are guns or spears. Pine cones are hand grenades.
> Sex differences in aggression are largely due to biology, as already
> pointed out, but upbringing does accen- tuate them, as happens in
> warlike societies. Sex differences in social skills may also reflect
> evolved differences.
>
> Thus, women's abilities to entice and manipulate men in a dating
> context would have helped to ensure male support for their children.
> In the past, they may not have had much personal interest in striving
> for political power and social status, but they were attracted to men
> who had these qualities and therefore acquired them by association. In
> other words, a woman who succeeded in marrying a high-ranking man
> acquired high social status for herself. Even today, when women's
> earning power immediately after college is almost equivalent to that
> of men, they still express the same emotional needs that helped them
> to obtain paternal in vestment in the evolutionary past.
>
> The Science of Romance - by Nigel Barber
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573929700/
>
> Once a high-self-esteem male is married, he may not be notable for his
> devotion. Presumably his various assets still make philandering a
> viable lifestyle, even if it's now covert. (And you never know when an
> outside escapade will take on a life of its own, and lead to
> desertion.) Men with more moderate self-esteem may make more
> committed, if otherwise less desirable, husbands. With fewer chances
> at extramarital dalliance, and perhaps more insecurity about their own
> mate's fidelity, they may focus their energy and attention toward
> family. Meanwhile, men with extremely low self-esteem, given continued
> frustration with women, may eventually resort to rape. There is
> ongoing debate within evolutionary psychology over whether rape is an
> adaptation, a designed strategy that any boy might grow up to adopt,
> given sufficiently discouraging feedback from his social environment.
> Certainly rape surfaces in a wide variety of cultures, and often under
> the expected circumstances: when men have had trouble finding
> attractive women by legitimate means. One (non-Darwinian) study found
> the typical rapist to possess "deep-seated doubts about his adequacy
> and competency as a person. He lacks a sense of confidence in himself
> as a man in both sexual and nonsexual areas."
>
> A second sort of light shed by the new Darwinian paradigm may
> illuminate links between poverty and sexual morality. Women living in
> an environment where few men have the ability and/or desire to support
> a family might naturally grow amenable to sex without commitment.
> (Often in history -- including Victorian England -- women in the
> "lower classes" have had a reputation for loose morals.) It is too
> soon to assert this confidently, or to infer that inner-city sexual
> mores would change markedly if income levels did. But it is
> noteworthy, at least, that evolutionary psychology, with its emphasis
> on the role of environment, may wind up highlighting the social costs
> of poverty, and thus at times lend strength to liberal policy
> prescriptions, defying old stereotypes of Darwinism as right-wing.
>
> The Moral Animal - by Robert Wright
> http://www.amazon.com/Moral-Animal-Robert-Wright/dp/0349107041/
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/104142/Robert-Wright-The-Moral-Animal
>
> MALE SEXUAL PSYCHOLOGY AND RAPE
>
> The Science of Romance - by Nigel Barber
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573929700/
>
> Given the enormous legal penalties exacted on rapists, it is a
> surprisingly common crime. It is estimated that 15 percent of college
> women experience date rape. Fourteen percent of wives are raped by
> their own husbands. About one woman in four has been sexually abused
> as a child. The lifetime incidence of rape may be as high as one woman
> in three. The tendency to commit rape is apparently more common than
> we would like to believe. When asked whether they would commit rape in
> a setting where there was no possibility of adverse consequences,
> approximately one-third of American college males admit that they
> would commit this crime. Since it is very socially undesirable to
> admit to such a propensity, it can be suspected that the true number
> may be considerably higher.
>
> What if the evil propensity to commit rape were due to genes? Men who
> commit rape would be inseminating women. If this contributes to their
> reproductive success, then the number of copies of "rapist" genes
> would increase in future generations. The bottom line would be that
> all men are rapists because their genes were making them do it. This
> is a chilling thought; however, it is not scientifically valid for a
> number of reasons.
>
> Forcible sexual intercourse is a rather common reproductive strategy
> among males of other species, but not among humans. In the case of
> ducks, males and females pair up during the breeding season in what
> appears to be the monogamous relationship seen in 60 percent of birds.
> However, the males are merely guarding females from the sexual
> encroachment of neighboring males who are always willing to engage in
> forcible copulation. We know this because as soon as the eggs are
> fertilized, the male deserts and attempts to set up another family.
>
> Forcible intercourse is taken a step further by scorpion flies. The
> male scorpion fly may use different mating tactics. The consensual
> approach involves "buying" sexual access with a piece of food. the
> nuptial gift. Alternatively, the male may bind to the female with
> specialized claspers and inseminate her without her consent. These
> claspers have no known function outside of copulation and when they
> are experimentally inactivated, forcible intercourse is no longer
> possible. In the case of scorpion flies, rape is a reproductive
> strategy and this explains the specialized clasping appendages.
>
> Forcible rape occurs also among primates. It is fairly common for
> orangutans. The rapist is usually a subadult male and these attacks
> can be quite violent, with the female being struck and bitten. Females
> normally consent to mate only with fully adult males. There is
> controversy about whether forcible copulations can produce offspring,
> however.
>
> Men do not have any specialized adaptations of anatomy or physiology
> designed by natural selection to facilitate rape. Neither is there any
> evidence that sexual predation could be a viable reproductive strategy
> in men as it is, for example, among ducks, although this case has been
> made in a recent controversial book by Randy Thornhill. A better
> understanding can be derived from looking at the potential
> reproductive benefits compared to the costs of rape. In the normal
> course of events, the costs are too high and the reproductive benefits
> too low for rape to be a viable strategy. This calculus is reversed
> during war and social upheaval, however.
>
> Instead of seeing rape as a reproductive strategy, it is probably
> better to view it as an extreme manifestation of the sexual
> assertiveness that is typical of men. In all societies, rape is
> treated as a serious crime. In our own, it is roughly equal in
> seriousness to manslaughter, carrying a potential life sentence. Many
> subsistence cultures have taken a sterner approach: the rapist is
> killed by irate relatives of the victim. Since a fertile woman may
> have unprotected sex scores of times without becoming pregnant, the
> likelihood of pregnancy from a single act of rape is very low. Given
> that the reproductive costs were normally much greater than the
> potential reproductive gain because rapists were likely to die young
> and childless-rape could not be favored as a primary reproductive
> strategy.
>
> Much of what we know about rape fits in with the view that it can be
> considered a facultative behavior. In other words, under certain
> circumstances, the normal pattern of male sexual pushiness may well
> cross the line into forcible rape. This is a controversial statement,
> but it is supported by the scientific evidence.
>
> First, it is important to establish that rape is a sexual crime. It is
> not simply the manifestation of a desire to hurt, control, frighten,
> or humiliate women, although these motives may certainly coexist with
> sexual motives. It is true that there is a small minority of sadistic
> rapes, which receive a lot of publicity, where nonsexual motives
> apparently predominate. These crimes have no more in common with the
> majority of rapes than serial killings have with the majority of
> murders. The perpetrators are a highly abnormal subgroup of the male
> population.
>
> The view that rape is essentially an act of political terrorism
> through which all men frighten and control women was advocated by
> feminist Susan Brownmiller in her book Against Our Will. The primary
> motive for rape is not political but sexual, however. The strongest
> evidence for this comes from an analysis of the demographics of rape
> victims. IfBrownmiller's view were correct, then we should expect all
> women, regardless of age, to be potential victims. The data show a
> very different picture. Young women in their early twenties are much
> more likely to be rape victims. Data for twenty-six U.S. cities found
> that women were six times as likely to be victims between the ages of
> sixteen and twenty-four years as they were at the ages of twelve to
> fifteen years or thirty-five to forty-nine years. Since the age of
> highest victimization is also the age of maximal sexual
> attractiveness, because women of this age are right at the beginning
> of their plateau of high fertility, it is clear that women are being
> targeted because of their sexual attractiveness. It could be argued
> that young women of this age go out more and are more likely to be out
> late at night, for example, making them more vulnerable to attack and
> thus providing an alternative explanation for the observed age
> pattern, but this argument is not supported by the evidence. Other
> violent crimes against women, such as homicides, did not reveal a
> similar age pattern. The vulnerability of young women to rape cannot
> be explained in terms of greater likelihood of encountering the
> perpetrators. They are selectively targeted because of their physical
> attractiveness. Although women are raped at all ages, their likelihood
> of victimization is much lower after the age of forty. This pattern
> has been observed repeatedly in different studies.
>
> While rape victims are most likely to be young attractive women, who
> are thus desirable to most men, perpetrators are often highly
> unappealing in terms of appearance and social status, although men of
> all social strata commit rape. They tend to be young (although the age
> range is wide) and to have low social status, which means that highly
> desirable women are not available to them by lawful means. Since
> attractive women elicit their sexual desire without the possibility of
> legitimate sexual access, rapists may feel frustrated and angry and
> may vent these emotions on their victims.
>
> The role of low social status and consequent rejection by attractive
> women was stressed by one (repeat) rapist in accounting for his
> actions:
>
> "I wanted this particular type of person she was a college girlbut I
> felt that my social station would make her reject me. And I just
> didn't feel that I would be able to make this person. 1 didn't know
> how to go about meeting her. Anyway, I waited one night until she had
> gone to bed. After the lights were out, I just went into the window.
> She was frightened, of course, and I took advantage of her fright and
> raped her".
>
> This account emphasizes the desirability of the victim and her
> inaccessibility to the rapist by socially acceptable channels. It
> suggests that rape is more likely among men who have no other options
> for having sex with highly desirable women. Such men would be least
> sensitive to the very great costs associated with the crime and most
> sensitive to its benefits. For men who normally have more sexual
> access to women, rape is likely to occur only when the costs are very
> much diminished, something which often occurs with the collapse of
> civil order during warfare. The motivation for rape within marriage is
> obscure, however. It might reflect a conflict of interest over
> frequency of intercourse or it might indeed be perpetrated to
> humiliate and terrorize the victim.
>
> Evolutionary psychology is not only useful in explaining the
> characteristics of rapists and victims and the circumstances under
> which rape is most likely to occur (thereby providing indispensable
> information for those who work to prevent rape), but it also helps us
> to understand the feelings of the victims. A single woman who is raped
> may experience a severe loss of desirability as a bride in many
> cultures of "honor." Even if she does not become pregnant, her social
> standing and ability to make a desirable marriage can be severely
> compromised. In that sense, something is taken away by force that
> cannot be replaced.
>
> This also applies to the psychological impact of rape. Rape victims
> are likely to experience posttraumatic stress disorder. It is
> estimated that some of the symptoms of posttraumatic stress show up in
> 95 percent of women who have been raped within two weeks of the
> attack. The symptoms include difficulty in sleeping, flashbacks to the
> traumatic event which occur during sleep in the form of nightmares,
> constant vigilance and anxiety, difficulty resuming normal sexual
> behavior, and a general sense of numbness and detachment from other
> people that can disrupt friendships and other intimate relationships.
> The severity and persistence of the symptoms is related to the
> violence of the attack. After six years, three quarters of the victims
> say that they have recovered. However, for about one-sixth of victims,
> posttraumatic stress syndrome is still present seventeen years later
> and has evidently developed into the chronic form seen in combat
> veterans. The psychological effects of rape can therefore be as great
> as any other stressor to which a person may be exposed in their
> lifetime.
>
> The Science of Romance - by Nigel Barber
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573929700/
>
>> --
>> Overheard:"If I am a friend of the family then I at least must be from
>> Texas. You shouldn't worry your pretty little head about politics, baby,
>> if
>> it is something that you're curious about, just ask an adult and we'll
>> keep
>> you informed."
>
>

As always, Immort's reams of information are interesting, informative...but
often needless.
Brass tax [or is it tacks...I can't remember any longer]...Women own
'beauty', and for that, have power over men.

Oh...sure...we all like a good fuck whenever it comes down the road...but it
is beauty that 'moves' us at the deepest part of what we are...that launches
the thousands ships and promotes men to carry hell itself on their backs [in
the name of war and bacon down through the ages].

Has any man ever tried to 'fall in love' with an ugly duckling because she
was a 'good' woman and would be a good mate? Try as you may, nature has
it's own plan how the gravities pull our orbits.

I still can't understand what it is about men that attracts the woman
though. That's the real mystery in all this. My long years of meager
experience [ha] suggest they are empathetic to the gender relationship,
whereby they draw upon the emotions of the man??? This makes them
malleable, the follower, that which molds itself, adapts easier, and what
also makes them bad protectors of territory since they so readily 'adapt' to
any conquering horde. Maybe they really shouldn't have been given the vote?
[joking of course...as I hear the bra sling shots snap in rebuke].

But consider, western civilization IS indeed, being 'given' away. Women
empathize with the needy so easily and so play politically into that liberal
element that would throw away the locks and keys and open borders to all 6
billion starvin' marvin's from Ethiopia. 50%% of all voters now are
women...and working women are responsible for ushering in the Clinton years
[close to 80%% of working women voted in '92 to compliment Ross Perot's
splinter vote and nearly 70%% or so always vote liberal]. Clinton was the
first great 'break' in the long chain of leadership in the USA that belonged
under a certain domain. Now we look forward to a president with a name like
Obama.

I'm quite convinced that, good bad or ugly, what is happening in the
west...this grand sweeping reformation of liberalism that is revamping
nation-state existence and erradicating age old traditions and
heritages...is based upon the new political clout of women. Their vote is
not always at the ballot box either, but by the choices they have made and
are now making in the sexual arenas.

Beauty is a power, no doubt about that. Men perform. We are but dancing
bears in the greater scheme of things. Woe betide most of us...unless of
course, one can provide the woman with the emotional containment that will
fill her void. For that, pussy galore. But it also means having to be a
bit of a puppet I think. Ah...but we should not think too deeply...most men
would sell their souls for that pussy. Here's to the Rotweiller's that
guard the gates of Hell...good men, one and all.

Also...beware foxes with tails missing....LOL.
no comments
diggit! del.icio.us! reddit!

RELATED THREADS
SubjectArticles qty Group
Bill O'Lielly Blames Underage Rape Victim for Getting Raped (GOP=Pedophiles)alt.fan.rush.limbaugh ·