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Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: Pop Fly
Date: Aug 13, 2008 20:28

"The unexamined life is not worth living."
- attributed to Socrates by Plato

Folks are dumb where I come from;
They ain't had any learnin'.
Still they're happy as can be,
Doin' a-what comes natur'ly!
- attributed to Annie Oakley by Irving Berlin, and sung by Ethel
Merman

If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
"as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.

What's your take on it?
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Re: Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: Cormagh
Date: Aug 13, 2008 22:59

On Aug 13, 8:28 pm, Pop Fly gmail.com> wrote:
> "The unexamined life is not worth living."
> - attributed to Socrates by Plato
>
> Folks are dumb where I come from;
> They ain't had any learnin'.
> Still they're happy as can be,
> Doin' a-what comes natur'ly!
> - attributed to Annie Oakley by Irving Berlin, and sung by Ethel
> Merman
>
> If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
> "as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.
>
> What's your take on it?

I think Plato was reaching, as he often was, especially after the
death of Socrates.

Cormagh
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Re: Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 14, 2008 05:19

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:28:19 -0700, Pop Fly wrote:
>"The unexamined life is not worth living."
> If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
> "as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.
>
> What's your take on it?

Pretty interesting.

"dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives".

'Dumb folks', here, are usually rural folks. Rural folks work. A lot
usually. They work the land. They must 'learn from the land', how it
acts, what to do when, how much, how little, and so forth. So learnin' is
not the real issue here despite what Irving says and Ethel sings.

Examination of ones life does not have to be the examination of 'life'
itself, this is a luxury. It is also the evaluation of actions. A person
acting towards achievement, of any kind, will examine their own actions
and any others that pertain to that achievement.
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Re: Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 14, 2008 07:37

On Aug 14, 1:28 pm, Pop Fly gmail.com> wrote:
> "The unexamined life is not worth living."
> - attributed to Socrates by Plato
>
> Folks are dumb where I come from;
> They ain't had any learnin'.
> Still they're happy as can be,
> Doin' a-what comes natur'ly!
> - attributed to Annie Oakley by Irving Berlin, and sung by Ethel
> Merman
>
> If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
> "as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.
>
> What's your take on it?

Sung by Doris Day.

Theres always another step to examine, even fer them there ploughmen
and the farmers (should be friends).

BOfL
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Re: Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: bigfletch8
Date: Aug 14, 2008 07:40

On Aug 14, 10:19 pm, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:28:19 -0700, Pop Fly wrote:
>>"The unexamined life is not worth living."
>> If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
>> "as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.
>
>> What's your take on it?
>
> Pretty interesting.
>
> "dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives".
>
> 'Dumb folks', here, are usually rural folks. Rural folks work. A lot
> usually. They work the land. They must 'learn from the land', how it
> acts, what to do when, how much, how little, and so forth. So learnin' is
> not the real issue here despite what Irving says and Ethel sings.
>
> Examination of ones life does not have to be the examination of 'life'
> itself, this is a luxury. It is also the evaluation of actions. A person
> acting towards achievement, of any kind, will examine their own actions ...
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Re: Socrates vs. Annie         


Author: Pop Fly
Date: Aug 14, 2008 16:46

On Aug 14, 8:19 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:28:19 -0700, Pop Fly wrote:
>>"The unexamined life is not worth living."
>> If dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives, and if lives
>> "as happy as can be" are worth living, then we got us an argument.
>
>> What's your take on it?
>
> Pretty interesting.
>
> "dumb folks without learnin' don't examine their lives".
>
> 'Dumb folks', here, are usually rural folks. Rural folks work. A lot
> usually. They work the land. They must 'learn from the land', how it
> acts, what to do when, how much, how little, and so forth. So learnin' is
> not the real issue here despite what Irving says and Ethel sings.
>
> Examination of ones life does not have to be the examination of 'life'
> itself, this is a luxury. It is also the evaluation of actions. A person
> acting towards achievement, of any kind, will examine their own actions ...
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