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Author: chazwin
Date: Sep 3, 2008 01:30

On Sep 3, 12:33 am, Day Brown daybrown.org> wrote:
> A point Steven Pinker, "The Blank Slate" made, which was also made by
> LeBlanc in "Constant Battles", is that the graveyards of the primitive
> hunting tribes show us 20 times the rate of violent assault as seen in
> the graveyards of yeoman farmers. While the DNA effect on any given
> individual is a crapshoot, and one cannot rely on the characteristics of
> a genetic line, the effect on the group as a whole is entirely predictable.
>
> When I came across two studies on minorities by Swedish and German
> sociologists, I was hopeful of a less biased report. But I saw the same
> high rates of drug, physical, and sexual abuse, alcoholism, divorce, and
> the same low rates of education, job satisfaction, and income. They also
> noted how the young males had ostentatious wardrobes, walked with what
> we'd call a 'barrio swagger', and had trouble with authority figures.
>
> Only thing is, they were talking about the Saami and Gypsies, who are
> just as white as I am. Skin color is not an adequate explanation. I
> noted however, that whereas these two gene lines are nomads, all the
> other white gene pools are yeoman farmers. I note as well that when we
> look for other yeoman farming cultures, such as China, Korea, and Japan,
> we see the same lower levels of personal violence and what is called
> 'civilization'. And in Africa, the Brits were amazed at the response of
> the Zulu's ability to organize military defense. The diff in this case
> being that the Zulu had been moving out of the tropical zone and into
> the temperate zone of South Africa with agrarian lifestyles.
>
> Its not egzactly white skin. It turns out there is a red form of
> melanin, that like the black, if it is higher, then we can expect higher
> levels of adrenalin (which speeds reflexes, but also impulsivity) and
> lowers dopamine and seratonin (which sharpens senses, but makes for
> restless sleep and increases the effect of alcohol and other drugs
> impacting the pleasure center in the amygdala).
>
> Thus, when Jared Diamond 'Collapse", looks at the graveyards of the
> Greenland Norse, he see the same high rates of physical trauma we expect
> in high melanin hunting tribes. But what we are looking at this time,
> are the descendants of Eric The Red, who was kicked out of first Norway,
> and then Iceland, because of his violence. Its also been my observation
> that red headed lovers are more challenging to deal with. I never knew
> one that was stupid. You will havta ask the women what they think of
> redheaded men.
>
> "An almost Perfect Match" on CBS' 60 minutes, showed us how a suspect,
> who didnt quite match the DNA data, when they looked for the same
> markers among his male kin, found the rapist. There is an increasing
> body of data on the markers, and we should begin to think about how to
> deal with that. One option mite be to supplement dopamine and seratonin
> in childhood so that when the boys reach puberty, they can deal with the
> amplification that comes with testosterone increases. Denial that DNA
> has no effect in the name of racial equality makes things worse.
>
> And things are getting worse cause those who are least able to adapt to
> modern culture are breeding faster, subsidized by those who are able,
> and make the money to pay the taxes. Moreover, this growing pool of the
> various minorities, when they vote, support demagogues pandering to
> their ethnicity and religion, and dont support those who are for a more
> sustainable environment and sounder long term fiscal policy. The result
> is that the USA is headed for banana republic status.
>
> Former US Comptroller David M. Walker has been talking about 53 trillion
> in unfunded entitlement liabilities. And not getting anywhere with the
> electorate doing so. This could very easily lead to financial meltdown
> as the global financial community quits coming up with the money that it
> now buys US Treasury notes with. The result of that could easily be the
> rapid dissolution of the Untied States of denial, with those states that
> see they still have real assets quit paying federal taxes and trade more
> directly with the global economy leaving those states with high levels
> of retirees and welfare cases to fend as best they can.
>
> Whatever remains of the global or continental market will tend to
> support those states and communities that have higher ratios of stable
> competent workers, and withdraw investment from those that have more who
> rely on entitlements. Those political systems which consider the effect
> of DNA endowment, or lack thereof, will see more competent teachers
> apply, and any community offering fertility clinic services to young
> women to ramp up production of an even more functional generation will
> receive more investment as well as more competent families wanting their
> own kids in schools that, as a result, can spend more on gifted classes
> and less on remedial education.
>
> And if we are to deal with the multitude of environmental disasters that
> have been produced so far, we will need to dramatically ramp up the
> birth rate of the competent people we need to deal with it. Inasmuch as
> the competent women we already have are busy with their careers, one
> option is fertility clinic services for women who want motherhood as a
> career instead.

It is no wonder that you are confuse and are failing to understand
what you are looking at.
Genes and DNA cannot have attributions such as "yeoman Farmer",
"Barrio Swagger", "Saami", or "Zulu".
You are conflating cultural phenomena with genes. Humans are basically
alike. All cultures show, in young males, a propensity to what we
might call bravado and self assertion. The same propensity can be
observed in Chimps an gorillas too. What you are babbling on about are
general and natural propensities that find cultural expression.
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