> I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
> economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
> is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.
>
> Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected, would the powers that
> be , be prepared to re write both the oath of office, and the
> allegiance reference to 'one nation under God.
>
> As much chance of him being made president of Iran.

>I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
>economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
>is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.
>
>Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected,

> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"
>
> gmail.com> wrote:

>>I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
>>economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
>>is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.

>

>>Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected,

>
> Here in the USA a avowed atheist who publicaly announced his
> position wouldn't be elected to high office. Israel is apparently
> different in that regard since Einstein was once offered the
> presidency there. I think his unusual views on the nature of God
> would have disqualified him as a candidate for high office here in
> the USA, realistically speaking, in spite of his popularity. So
> IMO there's more to it than merely being a non-atheist in order
> to expect to get sufficient votes. Announced agnotistics and
> those with unusual God concepts both wouldn't stand a chance
> here. In that sense, there is no freedom of religion here. Not ...

> On Aug 19, 9:27 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>

>> I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
>> economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
>> is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.

>

>> Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected, would the powers that
>> be , be prepared to re write both the oath of office, and the
>> allegiance reference to 'one nation under God.

>

>> As much chance of him being made president of Iran.

>
> There's a difference.  It isn't the "powers that be" who
> would prevent Joe Atheist from being elected.  It's the
> people.

> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"
>
> gmail.com> wrote:

>>I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
>>economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
>>is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.

>

>>Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected,

>
> Here in the USA a avowed atheist who publicaly announced his
> position wouldn't be elected to high office. Israel is apparently
> different in that regard since Einstein was once offered the
> presidency there. I think his unusual views on the nature of God
> would have disqualified him as a candidate for high office here in
> the USA, realistically speaking, in spite of his popularity. So
> IMO there's more to it than merely being a non-atheist in order
> to expect to get sufficient votes. Announced agnotistics and
> those with unusual God concepts both wouldn't stand a chance
> here. In that sense, there is no freedom of religion here. Not ...

> On Aug 19, 10:29 am, Art zilch.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"

>

>> gmail.com> wrote:

>>>I have a candidate who has a Nobel prize for peace, science and also
>>>economics. He is incredibly wealthy and has the charisma of JFK, (but
>>>is loyal to his wife and family). There is no dirt to dig up.

>

>>>Problem is, he is an atheist. If he was elected,

>

>> Here in the USA a avowed atheist who publicaly announced his
>> position wouldn't be elected to high office. Israel is apparently
>> different in that regard since Einstein was once offered the
>> presidency there. I think his unusual views on the nature of God ...

> "Rudd and his family attend the Anglican church of St John the Baptist
> in Bulimba in his electorate. Although raised a Roman Catholic, Rudd
> began attending Anglican services in the 1980s with his wife. Like
> John Howard, Rudd has addressed congregations of the Hillsong Church.
>
> Rudd is the mainstay of the parliamentary prayer group in Parliament
> House, Canberra. He is vocal about his Christianity and has given a
> number of prominent interviews to the Australian religious press on
> the topic. Rudd has defended church representatives engaging with
> policy debates, particularly with respect to WorkChoices legislation,
> climate change, global poverty, therapeutic cloning and asylum
> seekers. In an essay in The Monthly, Rudd writes:
>
> A Christian perspective on contemporary policy debates may not
> prevail. It must nonetheless be argued. And once heard, it must be
> weighed, together with other arguments from different philosophical
> traditions, in a fully contestable secular polity. A Christian
> perspective, informed by a social gospel or Christian socialist
> tradition, should not be rejected contemptuously by secular ...

> On Aug 20, 2:34 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

>> "Rudd and his family attend the Anglican church of St John the Baptist
>> in Bulimba in his electorate. Although raised a Roman Catholic, Rudd
>> began attending Anglican services in the 1980s with his wife. Like
>> John Howard, Rudd has addressed congregations of the Hillsong Church.

>

>> Rudd is the mainstay of the parliamentary prayer group in Parliament
>> House, Canberra. He is vocal about his Christianity and has given a
>> number of prominent interviews to the Australian religious press on
>> the topic. Rudd has defended church representatives engaging with
>> policy debates, particularly with respect to WorkChoices legislation,
>> climate change, global poverty, therapeutic cloning and asylum
>> seekers. In an essay in The Monthly, Rudd writes: ...