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So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Fred Weiss
Date: Oct 15, 2007 07:19

ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that
helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the
product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007/10/13/1191696238792...

Of course when this very same prize was given to a corrupt thug like
Yassar Arafat it obviously doesn't mean much.

Fred Weiss
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: ta
Date: Oct 15, 2007 09:23

On Oct 15, 10:19 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
> ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that
> helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the
> product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007...
>
> Of course when this very same prize was given to a corrupt thug like
> Yassar Arafat it obviously doesn't mean much.
>
> Fred Weiss

(laugh) Dr. William Gray has about as much credibility in the
scientific community as you have in alt.philosophy.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Oct 15, 2007 09:55

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:19:56 -0700, Fred Weiss
papertig.com> wrote:
>ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that
>helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the
>product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007/10/13/1191696238792...
>
>Of course when this very same prize was given to a corrupt thug like
>Yassar Arafat it obviously doesn't mean much.
>
>Fred Weiss
~~
But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms
and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean
water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water -
was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken
place.
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Oct 15, 2007 10:08

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:23:42 -0700, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>On Oct 15, 10:19 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
>> ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that
>> helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the
>> product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
>>
>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007...
>>
>> Of course when this very same prize was given to a corrupt thug like
>> Yassar Arafat it obviously doesn't mean much.
>>
>> Fred Weiss
>
>(laugh) Dr. William Gray has about as much credibility in the
>scientific community as you have in alt.philosophy.
>
>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Fred Weiss
Date: Oct 15, 2007 11:00

On Oct 15, 12:23 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
> (laugh) Dr. William Gray has about as much credibility in the
> scientific community as you have in alt.philosophy.
>
> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/04/gray-on-agw/

(guffaw) Apparently as much credibility as "realclimate.org" which
raved about Gore's film while at the same time acknowledging its
glaring errors.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=299

Even a layman British judge was easily able to peg the film for the
blatant propaganda it is.

But hey, who can question Gore's scientific authority when he
"invented the Internet"?

As for the supposed "scientific consensus" on global warming:

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,176495.shtml

Fred Weiss
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Date: Oct 15, 2007 12:38

On Oct 15, 10:19 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
> ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that
> helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the
> product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007...
>
> Of course when this very same prize was given to a corrupt thug like
> Yassar Arafat it obviously doesn't mean much.
>
> Fred Weiss

Just think years from now we will be saying. 'So what if they gave
the Nobel Peace prize to Hugo Chavez remember a few years ago when
they gave it to Al "I should have been President" Gore.'
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Oct 15, 2007 18:03

On Oct 15, 11:00 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 12:23 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> (laugh) Dr. William Gray has about as much credibility in the
>> scientific community as you have in alt.philosophy.
>
>
> (guffaw) Apparently as much credibility as "realclimate.org" which
> raved about Gore's film while at the same time acknowledging its
> glaring errors.
>
> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=299
>
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Fred Weiss
Date: Oct 17, 2007 04:28

On Oct 15, 9:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 11:00 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 15, 12:23 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>> (laugh) Dr. William Gray has about as much credibility in the
>>> scientific community as you have in alt.philosophy.
>
>
>> (guffaw) Apparently as much credibility as "realclimate.org" which
>> raved about Gore's film while at the same time acknowledging its
>> glaring errors.
>
>
> I went to that page to see if there was enough to be a representation
> of the sentiment expressed by the meteorologist as, "rediculous." I
> then looked over the errors in Gores movie and they did not seem
> sufficient to interfere with the general theory of greenhouse gases. ...
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Malrassic Park
Date: Oct 17, 2007 09:44

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:28:09 -0700, Fred Weiss
papertig.com> wrote:
>On Oct 15, 9:03 pm, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 15, 11:00 am, Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 15, 12:23 pm, ta nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
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Re: So much for Al Gore and his "Peace Prize"         


Author: Bret Cahill
Date: Oct 17, 2007 19:55

> But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms
> and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean
> water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water -
> was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken
> place.
>
> However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would
> begin soon and last for several years.
>
> "We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how
> foolish it was," Dr Gray said.

I don't really care much if Gray was off by several hundred percent on
the number of Atlantic storms in '06.

A much juicier question is, how did the salinity of the sea change
much when there is _already_ several million cubic miles of salt in
the oceans?

How did hundreds of thousands of cubic miles of salt get into the
oceans over the past few decades?

And where did it come from?
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