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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Michael Price
Date: Mar 14, 2008 02:36

On Mar 11, 1:23 pm, "Ynot B. Happie" bored.com> wrote:
> "Michael Price" yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8eaf66f9-5bd1-4801-80f6-2a0f30608f9b@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 10, 5:12 pm, "Ynot B. Happie" bored.com> wrote:
>>> "Don Stockbauer" hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>news:d086c94a-c14d-4839-84b2-cd7a85f37e44@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>>> On Mar 9, 11:43 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 9, 1:47 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote:
>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 1:22 pm, BretCah...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>>>>>>> The nutters are scared to death the GOP tax cut recession will
>>>>>>> usher
>>>>>>> in a new age of gun grabbing.
>
>>>>>>> The Chairman of the DNC, Howard Dean, is correct that Dems should
>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>> that issue.
>
>>>>>>> The Repugs will just use it to bottom fish for the dumbest of the
>>>>>>> dumb.
>
>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
>>>>>> Your horrendously mis-juxtaposed similies are just plain stupid.
>
>>>>>> One does not attempt to stop economic disaster with a weapon...
>
>>>>> We'll have to explain that to nutters some other time.
>
>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
>>>> What kind of nutters are you talking about?  Pecan growers?
>
>>> Florida orange and tomatoe growers need guns to keep the illegal pickers
>>> inline so they don't escape before their free-marketeer debts are paid
>>> back.
>>> Those nutters maybe? :)
>
>>  Gee you really don't know much do you?  Florida fruit growers hire
>> by the
>> day and don't need force to keep people "inline".
>
> I really don't know much? Me? Not you?

Yep, you not me.
>
> Your attention span appears to be about zero.
>
> OK, here goes FYI [ that means For YOUR Information ] THIS IS NOT NEW IN THE
> USA ... DOCUMENTARIES HAVE BEEN DONE, PROSECUTIONS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL,
> IT'S REAL, IT'S TRUE, AND IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES....................
> Right up to today.
>
And none of these prosecutions you describe are of free market
people, by
definition. Try to understand your own posts.
> You need to ask yourself, why didn't i know this, and what else don't i know
> about my own nation? I visited florida as a tourist, and I knew about it.
> All the locals knew this sort of shit happens, it's pretty well common
> knowledge but all swept under the carpet for ages. Only recently has there
> been any serious or consistent push by Law enforcement and Politicians to
> tackle the problem.
>
> I live on the other side of the world, and known this for a DECADE ... WHY
> don't you?

I live on the other side of the world too and I know that you don't
need to use
guns to get cheap labour in Florida. That's what I claimed and it's
true.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> FORCED LABOR IN THE UNITED STATEShttp://www.hrcberkeley.org/download/hiddenslaves_report.pdf
>
> THREE MIAMI AREA WOMEN INDICTED ON FORCED LABOR CHARGES AND ONE NEW JERSEY
> MAN INDICTED WITH ALIEN HARBORING
> April 20, 2007 -
>
> The prosecution of individuals involved in human trafficking is a top
> priority of the Justice Department. Since 2001, the Justice Department has
> charged more than 300 human traffickers and secured more than 200
> convictions. From 2001 through 2005, the Justice Department convicted over
> twice as many persons for trafficking compared to the previous five years.
>
> Mr. Acosta commended the investigative efforts of the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation and Detectives of the Miami-Dade Police Department. The case
> is being prosecuted by Edward Chung, Trial Attorney from the Civil Rights
> Division of the United States Department of Justice and Brent Tantillo,
> Assistant United States Attorney from the United States Attorney's Office
> for the Southern District of Florida.
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls/PressReleases/070420-05.html
>
> Immokalee, Florida, Family Charged with Forcing Immigrants into Farm Labor
> WASHINGTON - Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division
> Grace Chung Becker and U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Florida
> Robert E. O'Neill today announced the indictment of six Immokalee, Fla.,
> family members for enslaving Mexican and Guatemalan immigrants and forcing
> them into agricultural labor.
>
> According to the 17-count indictment, Cesar Navarrete and Geovanni Navarrete
> beat, threatened, restrained and locked workers in trucks to force them to
> work for them as agricultural laborers. The defendants underpaid the workers
> and imposed escalating debts on them, threatening physical harm if workers
> left their employment before their debts had been repaid.
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/January/08_crt_034.html
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Slave labour that shames America
>
> Migrant workers chained beaten and forced into debt, exposing the human cost
> of producing cheap food
>
> By Leonard Doyle in Immokalee, Floride
> Wednesday, 19 December 2007
>
> Three Florida fruit-pickers, held captive and brutalised by their employer
> for more than a year, finally broke free of their bonds by punching their
> way through the ventilator hatch of the van in which they were imprisoned.
> Once outside, they dashed for freedom.
>
> When they found sanctuary one recent Sunday morning, all bore the marks of
> heavy beatings to the head and body. One of the pickers had a nasty,
> untreated knife wound on his arm. Police would learn later that another man
> had his hands chained behind his back every night to prevent him escaping,
> leaving his wrists swollen.
>
> The migrants were not only forced to work in sub-human conditions but
> mistreated and forced into debt. They were locked up at night and had to pay
> for sub-standard food. If they took a shower with a garden hose or bucket,
> it cost them $5.
>
> Their story of slavery and abuse in the fruit fields of sub-tropical Florida
> threatens to lift the lid on some appalling human rights abuses in America
> today.
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/slave-labour-that-sh...
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> The New York Times
>
> By Eric Schlosser
> Wednesday, April 6, 2005
>
> Monterey, Calif. - And now a word of good news from the world of fast food.
>
> Last month, the Coalition of Immokalee Workers, a group that represents farm
> workers in southern Florida, announced that it was ending a four-year
> boycott of Taco Bell. The most remarkable thing about the announcement was
> the reason behind it: Taco Bell had acceded to all of the coalition's
> demands.
>
> The working conditions in the fields of Florida are especially bad.
> According to a recent study by the Urban Institute, perhaps 80 percent of
> the migrants in Florida are illegal immigrants. They are usually employed by
> labor contractors, who charge them for food, housing, transportation - and,
> on occasion, smuggling fees. These charges are often deducted from workers'
> paychecks, trapping migrants in debt. Since 1996, six cases of involuntary
> servitude have resulted in convictions in Florida; many others have probably
> gone undetected. In one of these cases, hundreds of farm workers were held
> captive by labor contractors based in La Belle and Immokalee, Fla., forced
> to work without pay and warned that their tongues would be cut off if they
> tried to escape. The Florida legislature has done little to help migrants.
> Agriculture is the state's second-largest industry, after tourism, and many
> legislators have close ties with leading growers.
>
> The Coalition of Immokalee Workers is one of the few organizations willing
> to fight for migrant workers in Florida. Founded in 1996 and based in the
> town of Immokalee, amid lush tomato fields and citrus groves, the group
> helped the United States Justice Department gain convictions in five of the
> six slavery cases. During the late 1990's members of the coalition learned
> that Taco Bell was a major purchaser of tomatoes grown in Immokalee, where
> the wages of migrants (adjusted for inflation) had fallen by as much as 60
> percent during the previous two decades.
>
> http://www.ciw-online.org/schlossernyt.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> The last word: Our slaves
>
> 'Involuntary servitude' still exists in America today, says author John
> Bowe.
> A brutal murder in a migrant farmworkers community in Florida shows how that's
> possible.
>
> On April 20, 1997, at around 10 p.m., the Highlands County, Fla., Sheriff's
> Office received a 911 call; something strange had happened out in the
> migrant-worker ghetto near Highlands Boulevard. The "neighborhood," a
> mishmash of rotting trailer homes and plywood shacks, was hidden outside the
> town of Lake Placid, a mile or two back from the main road. By day, the
> place was forbidding and cheerless, silent. By night, it was downright
> menacing, humid and thick with mosquitoes.
>
> When the sheriff's officers arrived, they found an empty van parked beside a
> lonely, narrow lane. The doors were closed, the lights were still on, and a
> few feet away, in the steamy hiss of night, a man lay facedown in a pool of
> blood. He had been shot once in the back of the head, execution-style. The
> 911 caller had offered a description of a truck the sheriff's officers
> recognized as belonging to a local labor contractor named Ramiro Ramos.
>
> http://www.theweekdaily.com/news_opinion/extras/29574/the_last_word_o...
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> In 2006 they told me the story of a family member who had immigrated to the
> United States and ended up in a farm where he was held against his will.
> There were Mexicans and Salvadorian immigrants at this farm. When some of
> the Salvadorian men tried to rape the young man, he escaped, found help in a
> nearby town and was able to move on to a more normal type of job.
>
> More recently, the Texas Observer published an article on the same subject
> "Buy Some Stuff - Enslave Somebody"
>
>  http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=2654.
>
> Why is it that only the Texas Observer and the London Independent are making
> noise about this problem? I'd be curious who owns the farms that have turned
> immigrant labor into slave labor.
>
> http://dreamacttexas.blogspot.com/2007/12/21st-century-slave-labor-in...
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> October 28, 2004
>
> The Ongoing Tragedy of International Slavery and Human Trafficking: An ...
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