"turtoni"
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On Aug 11, 6:56 am, "tooly" bellsouth.net> wrote:> "turtoni"
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> On Aug 10, 2:07 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Aug 9, 9:14 pm, turtoni
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>>> For example:
>>> Jumping from one branch on a tree to another branch. If you don't get
>>> it right you're going to fall to the ground.
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>>> Confabulated into complex subjective stories about Karma.
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> The stories i practice are good:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK33KD7j_nc
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> HTHelps.
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> How about the moral of a novel?
> A good example I always thought was Hemingway's 'The Sun Also Rises'. In
> it, he paints the female mystique sort of like the black widow...unless
> one
> is 'Jake' and can approach properly.
>>The matrix of stories are pretty complex. People are all pretty
>>different in my experience. Generalizations are typically
>>inappropriate unless you'd think about in the terms of the characters
>>you'd like to imagine in a novel of your own making.
As our discussion unfolds, I realize that a main ingredient to an effective
story is that it explains something the rest of us 'see' but cannot
articulate well. Any man knows of the power of womanhood early on (in ref
to Sun Also Rises). As they age, they realize [I did anyway] how for the
sake of pleasing woman, the man jumps through hoops of her liking
[hopefully]. I like the idea that we are all 'Dancing Bears'. But I speak
to an underlying nature and not the human interaction itself and the dance
itself can be a very serious matter, entering into violent conflict and
death...even perhaps war. Most women would not see themselves as pupper
masters, yet...nature has made it that way nonetheless. IMHO.
Anyway, novelists like Hemingway seemed to have a knack for explaining or
giving a clear expose' in the storyline of some of these underlying natures
to what we are. They are deep and not explained outright, but left up to
the reader to discern as they read [to abstract the relationships to a more
universal level]. That depth is probably why such stories are not held as
cultural benchmarks, but more intellectual curiosity (and the earmark of a
noted writer versus dime store fare). But I think the dynamic would hold
even in the cultural benchmarks, just more surficial that the commoner can
grasp better. Ahh...but then, this idea of Christ dying for our sins...I
guess that gets about as abstract as you can get. The Priests always gave
us simple answers to the questions though, perhaps which made the storyline
work better. In summation, re-read my first sentence.
