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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: _ Prof. Jonez _
Date: Apr 9, 2008 18:12

Preventer of Work wrote:
> johac wrote:
>> The Florida Senate wants to keep their kids as ignorant as they are.
>>
>> ---
>> Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of alternative theories to
>> evolution
>>
>> By Linda Kleindienst
>>
>> Sun-Sentinel.com
>>
>> 1:09 PM EDT, April 8, 2008
>>
>> TALLAHASSEE
>>
>> Florida teachers could present alternative theories to evolution
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: Preventer of Work
Date: Apr 9, 2008 19:28

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> Preventer of Work wrote:
>> johac wrote:
>>> The Florida Senate wants to keep their kids as ignorant as they are.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of alternative theories to
>>> evolution
>>>
>>> By Linda Kleindienst
>>>
>>> Sun-Sentinel.com
>>>
>>> 1:09 PM EDT, April 8, 2008
>>>
>>> TALLAHASSEE
>>>
>>> Florida teachers could present alternative theories to evolution ­
>>> including religion-based creationism and intelligent design ­ without
>>> fear of retribution under a measure that passed a key Senate ...
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 9, 2008 22:05

>
>> They could have trouble with the "alternate theories" thing - there
>> are no alternate theories.
>
> The Flying Spaghetti Monster perhaps ?

How about these three alternative theories which could have been
caused in many different ways from naturally to some God or aliens;

Abiogenesis (Greek a-bio-genesis, "non biological origins") is the
formation of life from non-living matter. Today the term is primarily
used to refer to hypotheses about the chemical origin of life, such as
from a 'primeval soup' or in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents, and
most probably through a number of intermediate steps, such as non-
living but self-replicating molecules (biopoiesis). The current models
of abiogenesis are still being scientifically tested.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: Smiler
Date: Apr 10, 2008 20:08

"Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>> They could have trouble with the "alternate theories" thing - there
>>> are no alternate theories.
>>
>> The Flying Spaghetti Monster perhaps ?
>
> How about these three alternative theories which could have been
> caused in many different ways from naturally to some God or aliens;
>
> Abiogenesis (Greek a-bio-genesis, "non biological origins") is the
> formation of life from non-living matter. Today the term is primarily
> used to refer to hypotheses about the chemical origin of life, such as
> from a 'primeval soup' or in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents, and
> most probably through a number of intermediate steps, such as non-
> living but self-replicating molecules (biopoiesis). The current models
> of abiogenesis are still being scientifically tested. ...
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Apr 12, 2008 22:42

On Apr 10, 8:09 pm, "Smiler" Joe.King.com> wrote:
> "Immortalist" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:7a222edb-15b9-4850-8eac-e2c642fc3308@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
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>>>> They could have trouble with the "alternate theories" thing - there
>>>> are no alternate theories.
>
>>> The Flying Spaghetti Monster perhaps ?
>
>> How about these three alternative theories which could have been
>> caused in many different ways from naturally to some God or aliens; ...
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 12, 2008 23:07

On Apr 13, 1:42 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 8:09 pm, "Smiler" Joe.King.com> wrote:
>
>> Panspermia and Exogenesis both require that life exists/existed elsewhere in
>> the universe.
>> How, precisely, did that life originate, if not by abiogenesis?
>
> Correct, thats the question I always ask next.

Isn't this more the idea that the elements need to begin life were
seeded from outerspace. Those seeding elements then *combined* with
the conditions on earth and started this stuff we call life. The
"seed" wasn't life in of it's self.
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: turtoni
Date: Apr 12, 2008 23:14

On Apr 13, 2:07 am, turtoni fastmail.net> wrote:
> On Apr 13, 1:42 am, Immortalist yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 10, 8:09 pm, "Smiler" Joe.King.com> wrote:
>
>>> Panspermia and Exogenesis both require that life exists/existed elsewhere in
>>> the universe.
>>> How, precisely, did that life originate, if not by abiogenesis?
>
>> Correct, thats the question I always ask next.
>
> Isn't this more the idea that the elements need to begin life were
> seeded from outerspace. Those seeding elements then *combined* with
> the conditions on earth and started this stuff we call life. The
> "seed" wasn't life in of it's self.

spermia/seed is probably misleading. We should say that possibly
elements from outspace landed on the earth and those elements coupled
with earth's conditions and created "life".
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Re: Simian Florida Senate committee OKs teaching of "alternative theories to evolution".         


Author: Ben Kaufman
Date: Apr 13, 2008 20:16

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:05:39 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>>> They could have trouble with the "alternate theories" thing - there
>>> are no alternate theories.
>>
>> The Flying Spaghetti Monster perhaps ?
>
>How about these...
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