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Author: Thomas KeskeThomas Keske Date: Oct 14, 2007 10:34
A question posed to me:
> How about gay suicide activists?
How can I articulate my mixed feelings about that question?
I think that there is a danger of the gay community
being seduced by platitudes and too-easy answers
about violence. It is so uplifting to hear, "Violence is
always wrong. Violence never accomplishes anything".
Yet we celebrate the violence of the American Revolution,
and refuse even to use the honest language that "Our Founding Fathers
resorted to violence against their government" It doesn't even *occur*
to people, to place subject-verb-object in a sentence, like that.
What were the grievances of our Founding Fathers, living like
they did, in places like Mount Vernon and Monticello?
Aristocrats, really, not abused peasants.
They whined about being left to "merciless Indian savages"-
the people who were here first, whose land they invaded,
committing genocide along the way.
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Oct 14, 2007 11:16
On Oct 14, 10:34 am, "Thomas Keske" comcast.net> wrote:
> A question posed to me:
>
>> How about gay suicide activists?
>
> How can I articulate my mixed feelings about that question?
>
> I think that there is a danger of the gay community
> being seduced by platitudes and too-easy answers
> about violence. It is so uplifting to hear, "Violence is
> always wrong. Violence never accomplishes anything".
>
> Yet we celebrate the violence of the American Revolution,
> and refuse even to use the honest language that "Our Founding Fathers
> resorted to violence against their government" It doesn't even *occur*
> to people, to place subject-verb-object in a sentence, like that.
>
> What were the grievances of our Founding Fathers, living like
> they did, in places like Mount Vernon and Monticello?
> Aristocrats, really, not abused peasants. ...
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Author: EdEd Date: Oct 14, 2007 13:47
On Oct 14, 1:34 pm, "Thomas Keske" comcast.net> wrote:
> A question posed to me:
>
>> How about gay suicide activists?
>
> How can I articulate my mixed feelings about that question?
>
> I think that there is a danger of the gay community
> being seduced by platitudes and too-easy answers
> about violence. It is so uplifting to hear, "Violence is
> always wrong. Violence never accomplishes anything".
>
> Yet we celebrate the violence of the American Revolution,
> and refuse even to use the honest language that "Our Founding Fathers
> resorted to violence against their government" It doesn't even *occur*
> to people, to place subject-verb-object in a sentence, like that.
>
> What were the grievances of our Founding Fathers, living like
> they did, in places like Mount Vernon and Monticello?
> Aristocrats, really, not abused peasants. ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Oct 14, 2007 17:41
> Yet we celebrate the violence of the American Revolution,
Actually only those duped by Mel Gibson's _Patriot_ and other corp.
whore media revisionism nonsense celebrate the violence of the
American Revolution.
The American war for independence was a minor conflict and the corp.
media try to hide the _real_ genius of the Revolution.
As DeTocqueville pointed out the writing and ratification of the
Constitution was accomplished, "without a tear, without a drop of
blood" for the first time in the formation of human societies
The New York Times will have everyone believe that Pat Robertson came
over on the Mayflower but that's another corp. media Big Lie.
Try reading some political classics and you won't look so ignorant.
Bret Cahill
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