On Fri, 16 May 2008 19:02:13 -0400, FACE
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>With a good bit of talk recently about hitler liberals and leftists, this
>looked to be of interest.........
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>" Seattle Times Editor: 'Hitler's Demands Were Not Unreasonable'
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>Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:14:14 pm PST
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>Seattle Times editorial writer Bruce Ramsey, in an effort to defend Barack
>Obama against President Bush’s “appeasement” speech, actually ends up
>defending Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler, and the Anschluss (the annexation of
>Austria): Bush, and His Use of ‘Appeasement’. "
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http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/edcetera/2008/05/bush_and_his_use_of_appeasemen...
>May 16, 2008 8:52 AM
>Bush, and His Use of "Appeasement"
>
>Posted by Bruce Ramsey
>
>Democrats are rebuking President Bush for saying in his speech to the
>Knesset, here, that to “negotiate with terrorists and radicals” is
>“appeasement.”
Yet that is what Ronald Wilson Reagan did with Iran.
>The Democrats took it as a slap at Barack Obama. What bothers
>me is the continual reference to Hitler and his National Socialists,
>particularly the British and French accommodation at the Munich Conference
>of 1938.
>
>What Hitler was demanding was not unreasonable. He wanted the
>German-speaking areas of Europe under German authority. He had just annexed
>Austria, which was German-speaking, without bloodshed.
There had been a plebiscite scheduled to decide the issue but the
occupation by German forces ended that.
>There were two more
>small pieces of Germanic territory: the free city of Danzig and the
>Sudetenland, a border area of what is now the Czech Republic.
>
>We live in an era when you do not change national borders for these sorts of
>reasons. But in 1938 it was different. GermanyÂ’s eastern and western borders
>had been redrawn 19 years before—and not to its benefit.
Because it had started a war and lost. Earlier it had gained territory
to the East when Russia surrendered.
>In the democracies
>there was some sense of guilt with how Germany had been treated after World
>War I. Certainly there was a memory of the “Great War.” In 2008, we have
>entirely forgotten World War I,
Just saw a documentary on Vimy Ridge on the History channel and the
oldest Cdn soldier from that war lives in Washington State. He is the
only one left alive. John Babcock, 107 lives in Spokane.
>and how utterly unlike any conception of
>“The Good War” it was. When the British let Hitler have a slice of
>Czechoslovakia, they were following their historical wisdom: avoid war. War
>produces results far more horrible than you expected. War is a bad
>investment. It is not glorious. DonÂ’t give anyone an excuse to start one.
Then don't promise to protect the ppl you are giving up.
>
>In a few months, in early 1939, Hitler ordered the invasion of what is now
>the Czech Republic—that is, territory that was not German. Then it was
>obvious that a deal with him was worthless. And so when Bush recalls the
>unnamed senator who, in September 1939, lamented that he had not been able
>to talk to Hitler, he hits an easy target. But the moment of September 1939
>is nothing like today.
>
>In September 1939, when Germany started the war, it had no just claim to any
>more territory. But the Palestinians who fight Israel do have a just claim
>to territory.
So does Israel and in fact Israel should have more territory.
> We can argue what it is; we can argue about the justness of
>their military tactics, and so on. And the same for the Israeli side, which
>is equally arguable.
The Israelis have a better argument.
>
>The step that must be taken now is for the two sides to talk, so that they
>can make a deal that both will accept, and that each side will enforce
>against its radical elements. In that context, to continually bring up
>Hitler, the Nazis, the Munich Conference and continually use the word
>“appeasement,” is wrong. To use those comparisons is to assert that it is
>morally questionable even to talk to the Palestinians.
Hamas is a terrorist org which says Israel has no right to exist. This
is no different from the Hitler view that all Jews should die.
>It is to give an
>excuse to seal them off, cast them out, to deny that they have any just
>claims. And they do have just claims. To compare the Palestinians—who are
>occupied, oppressed, denied, stepped-on—with Hitler’s Germany in 1939 is
>incredible and ridiculous .
They helped torture and kill Kuwaitis under the Saddam regime. Their
leaders want to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.
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>FACE
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