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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Apr 11, 2008 07:39
During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
years -- I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
pain, to the point of inducing madness.
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Author: Christopher A. LeeChristopher A. Lee Date: Apr 11, 2008 07:50
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
yahoo.com> wrote:
>During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
>largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
>years -- I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of...
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:01
On Apr 11, 9:50 am, Christopher A. Lee optonline.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>
> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
>>largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
>>years -- I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
>>debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
>>debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
>>emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
>>far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
>>supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
>>practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
>>be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
>>warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
>>pain, to the point of inducing madness.
>
> Liar.
>
>>At the time, I thought that, perhaps, this reflected the development ...
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Author: Christopher A. LeeChristopher A. Lee Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:07
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:01:07 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Apr 11, 9:50 am, Christopher A. Lee optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
>>
>> yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>During the debate over Global Warming...
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Author: JohnNJohnN Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:25
On Apr 11, 10:39 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
> largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
> years --
Not where I live.
> I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
> debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
> debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
> emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
> far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
> supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
> practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
> be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
> warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
> pain, to the point of inducing madness.
Just like the Religious Reich when they claim to debate human rights
for homosexuals and abortion. Religion has dogma. Dogma can never be
questioned without destroying the dogma and the deity who created
it.
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:33
On Apr 11, 10:25 am, JohnN hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 10:39 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
>> largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
>> years --
>
> Not where I live.
>
>> I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
>> debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
>> debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
>> emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
>> far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
>> supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
>> practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
>> be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
>> warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
>> pain, to the point of inducing madness.
> ...
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Author: Is there at least one Republican who thinks independently?Is there at least one Republican who thinks independently? Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:53
On Apr 11, 7:39 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
> During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
> largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
> years -- I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
> debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
> debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
> emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
> far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
> supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
> practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
> be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
> warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
> pain, to the point of inducing madness.
>
> At the time, I thought that, perhaps, this reflected the development
> of a new kind of religion based on nature worship and
> environmentalism, perhaps focused on the International Green Party,
> and harkening back to the nature worship of the Druids and the
> polytheists. It appeared to have a fundamentally irrational basis,
> indifferent to scientific reality logic or fact, attaching great ...
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Author: Angus RodgersAngus Rodgers Date: Apr 11, 2008 08:56
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT), Jerry Kraus
yahoo.com> wrote:
>Lately, I have been debating so-called, self described "atheists".
>Peronally, I doubt it is possible to truly be an atheist: we all have
>to believe in something, after all. We all must have some sense of
>purpose, if only to feed our bellies.
Which one of the major religions is implied merely by someone having
a sense of purpose? If none, what would you say IS implied, and how
would you sketch the argument from somebody's sense of purpose to an
implicit theism?
(I'm singling this bit out to reply to, because it is relevant to
alt.philosophy, and because your argument as a whole attacks many
people who do not seem to me to be natural bedfellows at all, and
seem only to represent an amalgam of your personal pet hates. Of
course, I could be wrong, as I don't know you! I don't disagree
with everything you wrote; I just don't want to get into a widely
crossposted argument about lots of different things at once.)
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Author: Jerry KrausJerry Kraus Date: Apr 11, 2008 09:01
On Apr 11, 10:53 am, "Is there at least one Republican who thinks
independently?" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 11, 7:39 am, Jerry Kraus yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> During the debate over Global Warming over the past few years --
>> largely dissipated now, since the world had its coldest winter in 100
>> years -- I noticed a rather striking characteristic of many of the
>> debators on the Global Warming side of the issue. They weren't really
>> debating. They were screaming. They were denouncing. They were
>> emoting. They appeared to have an emotional investment in the issue
>> far out of proportion not only to the rather questionable factual base
>> supporting the concept of global warming, but to any possible
>> practical implications of global warming even if -- as appears not to
>> be the case -- their facts had been accurate. The notion that global
>> warming might not be important appeared to cause them actual physical
>> pain, to the point of inducing madness. ...
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Author: copeabcopeab Date: Apr 11, 2008 09:04
On Apr 11, 10:53 am, "Is there at least one Republican who thinks
independently?" gmail.com> wrote:
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> Secondly, science isn't a religion. Science is a system of evolving
> theories based upon observable data why religion is a dogmatic set of
> beliefs based not on observable data but upon the voice of god or
> angels or some other mythical being imparting "wisdom."
Err, are you saying that deism isn't a religion?
Brandon
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