On Apr 11, 5:13Â am, "Andy F." tesco.net> wrote:
> "Jerry Kraus"
yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 8, 2:36 am, William Elliot hevanet.remove.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Bret Cahill wrote:
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>>> Most physical scientists who are only getting paid by a university
>>> have no conflicts of interest.
>
>>> They can say what they think is true and it won't change their income
>>> one way or another.
>
>> Do wrong research, that is not get the 'right' results can get your tenure
>> questioned, you're university's funding threathen, your funding slashed,
>> your credibility smeared and proven wrong by 'right' minded 'scientiests'
>> who do research on a pay for your pet results basis.
>
>> For example, the guy who did damning research about use of lead was
>> broadsided by the lead companies.
>
> My point, precisely. Â It's decision by committee, but, there's no
> really objective way to decide who's right and who's wrong. Â So, even
> when they're aren't huge business or government interests involved,
> the decision comes down to petty university politics. Â There is no
> methodology of "interpreting" experiments. Â Results of relevant
> research elsewhere are regularly ignored, other possible
> interpretations are ignored. Â This is unacceptable. Â A formal system
> for integrating all meaningful, releveant research and concepts into
> the intepretation of experimental results needs to be developed. Â It
> doesn't currently exist. Â That's why scientific progress tends to be
> so sporadic and unpredictable.
>
> ***
> So do you know a better way of interpreting results than what they use now,
> or are you just blowing hot air?
Legitimate criticism isn't "just blowing hot air". I'm identifying a
real problem, that doesn't mean I can present in a few lines on the
interent a totally adequate solution. Surely, the enormous number of
professionals in the scientific community have some responsibility for
policing their own profession(s)? I mean adequately, that is, not
just with their own interests in mind.