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>>>>>> In article
i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan"
write.instead.net> wrote:>>>>>>>> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
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>>>>>>>> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
>>>>>>>> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
>>>>>>>> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
>>>>>>>> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
>>>>>>>> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
>>>>>>>> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
>>>>>>>> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
>>>>>>>> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
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>>>>>>>> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
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>>>>>>>> Stuart Kauffman
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>>>>>>>> Abstract
>>
>>>>>>>> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
>>>>>>>> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless,
>>>>>>>> as Stephen Weinberg famously said, and organisms and a court of law are "nothing
>>>>>>>> but" particles in morion. This scientific view is inadequate. Physicists are
>>>>>>>> beginning to abandon reductionism in favor of emergence. Emergence, both
>>>>>>>> epistemological and ontological, embraces the emergence of life and of agency.
>>>>>>>> With agency comes meaning, value, and doing, beyond mere happenings. More
>>>>>>>> organisms are conscious. None of this violates any laws of physics, but it
>>>>>>>> cannot be reduced to physics. Emergence is real, and the tiger chasing the
>>>>>>>> gazelle are real parts of the real universe.
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>>>>>>>> We live, therefore, in an emergent universe. This emergence often is entirely
>>>>>>>> unpredictable beforehand, from the evolution of novel functionalities in
>>>>>>>> organisms to the evolution of the economy and human history. We are surrounded
>>>>>>>> on all sides by a creativity that cannot even be prestated. Thus we have the
>>>>>>>> first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview, beyond reductionism. In our
>>>>>>>> universe emergence is real, and there is ceaseless, stunning creativity that has
>>>>>>>> given rise to our biosphere, our humanity, and our history. We are partial
>>>>>>>> co-creators of this emergent creativity.
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>>>>>>>> It is our choice whether we use the God word. I believe it is wise to do so. God
>>>>>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe. Such a
>>>>>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the creativity in
>>>>>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically forced
>>>>>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse and
>>>>>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully natural
>>>>>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is open to
>>>>>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how our most
>>>>>>>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared global
>>>>>>>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, awesome
>>>>>>>> creativity in the universe can help us construct the sacred and a global ethic
>>>>>>>> to help shape the global civilization toward what we choose with the best of our
>>>>>>>> limited wisdom."
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>>>>>>>> limited wisdom.
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>>>>>>> It is well enough mainstream accepted that there has been a good God
>>>>>>> and a bad God.
>>
>>>>>>> The well educated and otherwise technologically informed Cathars were
>>>>>>> among the few trying their best intensions at keeping us in tune or
>>>>>>> focused upon what a good God would have liked of us humans to strive
>>>>>>> for.
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>>>>>>> Obviously the Roman Catholic bad God knew how to kick serious butt,
>>>>>>> and their Pope (aka commander and chief faith-based moron of that era)
>>>>>>> did just that, setting up an example that clearly impressed Hitler,
>>>>>>> and not otherwise having gone unnoticed by his white skinned Zionist
>>>>>>> puppet masters as having a global domination plan of their very own.
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>>>>>>> Hitler and of his physics and science company of Zionist goons plus
>>>>>>> countless servitude minions treated those of their concentration camps
>>>>>>> better off than rabbi Saul and Deco has treated far too many within
>>>>>>> Usenet/newsgroups, and yet folks like Stuart Kauffman and yourself so
>>>>>>> often keep entertaining our resident republican Godfather perverts as
>>>>>>> though they are even slightly human.
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>>>>>>> One thing for certain, your Eden should have no accommodations for the
>>>>>>> likes of rabbi Saul unless given preferential status by way of
>>>>>>> yourself. Do you really want the likes of Saul and other pretend-
>>>>>>> Atheists as intellectual predatory perverts in your Eden?
>>
>>>>>>> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>>>>>> KOOK FIGHT! KOOK FIGHT!!!
>>
>>>>>> -- cary
>>
>>>>> Is your face stuck in your zipper? (apparently so)
>>
>>>> No. Because here I am at work.
>>
>>>> Whereas if I could do that, I'd never leave my room.
>>
>>>> -- cary
>>
>>> Your boss knows what you're doing with his/her network, on company
>>> time none the less?
>>
>> Sure does.
>>
>> Anything else I might help you with?
>>
>> -- cary
>
> I should have guessed, CIA/MI5 spooks-R-us, or is it another Zionist
> rabbi thing?
Right the first time.
We'll be knocking on your door presently...
-- cary
