Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman
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Re: ...Science Reinvents God... by Stuart Kauffman         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: BradGuth
Date: Sep 18, 2008 19:51

On Sep 17, 7:56 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> In article <5e7554d7-da7d-49ce-b850-007c97df5...@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:
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>> On Sep 16, 6:07 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
>>> In article <465f8ce2-d995-4e6c-ae71-c82d1b8f1...@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:
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>>>> On Sep 16, 12:53 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
>>>>> In article i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:
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>>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan" write.instead.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
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>>>>>>> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
>>>>>>> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
>>>>>>> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
>>>>>>> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
>>>>>>> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
>>>>>>> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
>>>>>>> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
>>>>>>> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
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>>>>>>> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
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>>>>>>> Stuart Kauffman
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>>>>>>> Abstract
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>>>>>>> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
>>>>>>> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless,
>>>>>>> as Stephen Weinberg famously said, and organisms and a court of law are "nothing
>>>>>>> but" particles in morion. This scientific view is inadequate. Physicists are
>>>>>>> beginning to abandon reductionism in favor of emergence. Emergence, both
>>>>>>> epistemological and ontological, embraces the emergence of life and of agency.
>>>>>>> With agency comes meaning, value, and doing, beyond mere happenings. More
>>>>>>> organisms are conscious. None of this violates any laws of physics, but it
>>>>>>> cannot be reduced to physics. Emergence is real, and the tiger chasing the
>>>>>>> gazelle are real parts of the real universe.
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>>>>>>> We live, therefore, in an emergent universe. This emergence often is entirely
>>>>>>> unpredictable beforehand, from the evolution of novel functionalities in
>>>>>>> organisms to the evolution of the economy and human history. We are surrounded
>>>>>>> on all sides by a creativity that cannot even be prestated. Thus we have the
>>>>>>> first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview, beyond reductionism. In our
>>>>>>> universe emergence is real, and there is ceaseless, stunning creativity that has
>>>>>>> given rise to our biosphere, our humanity, and our history. We are partial
>>>>>>> co-creators of this emergent creativity.
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>>>>>>> It is our choice whether we use the God word. I believe it is wise to do so. God
>>>>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe. Such a
>>>>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the creativity in
>>>>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically forced
>>>>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse and
>>>>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully natural
>>>>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is open to
>>>>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how our most
>>>>>>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared global
>>>>>>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, awesome
>>>>>>> creativity in the universe can help us construct the sacred and a global ethic
>>>>>>> to help shape the global civilization toward what we choose with the best of our
>>>>>>> limited wisdom."
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>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> limited wisdom.
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>>>>>> It is well enough mainstream accepted that there has been a good God
>>>>>> and a bad God.
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>>>>>> The well educated and otherwise technologically informed Cathars were
>>>>>> among the few trying their best intensions at keeping us in tune or
>>>>>> focused upon what a good God would have liked of us humans to strive
>>>>>> for.
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>>>>>> Obviously the Roman Catholic bad God knew how to kick serious butt,
>>>>>> and their Pope (aka commander and chief faith-based moron of that era)
>>>>>> did just that, setting up an example that clearly impressed Hitler,
>>>>>> and not otherwise having gone unnoticed by his white skinned Zionist
>>>>>> puppet masters as having a global domination plan of their very own.
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>>>>>> Hitler and of his physics and science company of Zionist goons plus
>>>>>> countless servitude minions treated those of their concentration camps
>>>>>> better off than rabbi Saul and Deco has treated far too many within
>>>>>> Usenet/newsgroups, and yet folks like Stuart Kauffman and yourself so
>>>>>> often keep entertaining our resident republican Godfather perverts as
>>>>>> though they are even slightly human.
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>>>>>> One thing for certain, your Eden should have no accommodations for the
>>>>>> likes of rabbi Saul unless given preferential status by way of
>>>>>> yourself. Do you really want the likes of Saul and other pretend-
>>>>>> Atheists as intellectual predatory perverts in your Eden?
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>>>>>> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
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>>>>> KOOK FIGHT! KOOK FIGHT!!!
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>>>>> -- cary
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>>>> Is your face stuck in your zipper? (apparently so)
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>>> No. Because here I am at work.
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>>> Whereas if I could do that, I'd never leave my room.
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>>> -- cary
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>> Your boss knows what you're doing with his/her network, on company
>> time none the less?
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> Sure does.
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> Anything else I might help you with?
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> -- cary

I should have guessed, CIA/MI5 spooks-R-us, or is it another Zionist
rabbi thing?

~ BG
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