>>>> In article i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan" write.instead.net> wrote:
>>>>>> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
>>
>>>>>> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
>>>>>> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
>>>>>> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
>>>>>> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
>>>>>> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
>>>>>> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
>>>>>> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
>>>>>> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
>>
>>>>>> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
>>
>>>>>> Stuart Kauffman
>>
>>>>>> Abstract
>>
>>>>>> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
>>>>>> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless,
>>>>>> as Stephen Weinberg famously said, and organisms and a court of law are "nothing
>>>>>> but" particles in morion. This scientific view is inadequate. Physicists are
>>>>>> beginning to abandon reductionism in favor of emergence. Emergence, both
>>>>>> epistemological and ontological, embraces the emergence of life and of agency.
>>>>>> With agency comes meaning, value, and doing, beyond mere happenings. More
>>>>>> organisms are conscious. None of this violates any laws of physics, but it
>>>>>> cannot be reduced to physics. Emergence is real, and the tiger chasing the
>>>>>> gazelle are real parts of the real universe.
>>
>>>>>> We live, therefore, in an emergent universe. This emergence often is entirely
>>>>>> unpredictable beforehand, from the evolution of novel functionalities in
>>>>>> organisms to the evolution of the economy and human history. We are surrounded
>>>>>> on all sides by a creativity that cannot even be prestated. Thus we have the
>>>>>> first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview, beyond reductionism. In our
>>>>>> universe emergence is real, and there is ceaseless, stunning creativity that has
>>>>>> given rise to our biosphere, our humanity, and our history. We are partial
>>>>>> co-creators of this emergent creativity.
>>
>>>>>> It is our choice whether we use the God word. I believe it is wise to do so. God
>>>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe. Such a
>>>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the creativity in
>>>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically forced
>>>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse and
>>>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully natural
>>>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is open to
>>>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how our most
>>>>>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared global
>>>>>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, awesome
>>>>>> creativity in the universe can help us construct the sacred and a global ethic
>>>>>> to help shape the global civilization toward what we choose with the best of our
>>>>>> limited wisdom."
>>
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>>>>>> limited wisdom.
>>
>>>>> It is well enough mainstream accepted that there has been a good God
>>>>> and a bad God.
>>
>>>>> The well educated and otherwise technologically informed Cathars were
>>>>> among the few trying their best intensions at keeping us in tune or
>>>>> focused upon what a good God would have liked of us humans to strive
>>>>> for.
>>
>>>>> Obviously the Roman Catholic bad God knew how to kick serious butt,
>>>>> and their Pope (aka commander and chief faith-based moron of that era)
>>>>> did just that, setting up an example that clearly impressed Hitler,
>>>>> and not otherwise having gone unnoticed by his white skinned Zionist
>>>>> puppet masters as having a global domination plan of their very own.
>>
>>>>> Hitler and of his physics and science company of Zionist goons plus
>>>>> countless servitude minions treated those of their concentration camps
>>>>> better off than rabbi Saul and Deco has treated far too many within
>>>>> Usenet/newsgroups, and yet folks like Stuart Kauffman and yourself so
>>>>> often keep entertaining our resident republican Godfather perverts as
>>>>> though they are even slightly human.
>>
>>>>> One thing for certain, your Eden should have no accommodations for the
>>>>> likes of rabbi Saul unless given preferential status by way of
>>>>> yourself. Do you really want the likes of Saul and other pretend-
>>>>> Atheists as intellectual predatory perverts in your Eden?
>>
>>>>> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
>>
>>>> KOOK FIGHT! KOOK FIGHT!!!
>>
>>>> -- cary
>>
>>> Is your face stuck in your zipper? (apparently so)
>>
>> No. Because here I am at work.
>>
>> Whereas if I could do that, I'd never leave my room.
>>
>> -- cary
>
> Your boss knows what you're doing with his/her network, on company
> time none the less?
Sure does.
Anything else I might help you with?
-- cary