>> In article i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> BradGuth gmail.com> writes:
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>>> On Sep 10, 8:12 pm, "jonathan" write.instead.net> wrote:
>>>> God as the Emergent Process of Creation.
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>>>> A pioneer of complexity science, Stuart A. Kauffman, M.D., is
>>>> Chief Scientific Officer and Chairman of the Board, Bios Group Inc.
>>>> Since 1985, he has served as a consultant to Los Alamos National
>>>> Laboratory, and from 1986 to 1998 as Professor at the Santa Fe
>>>> Institute. Major areas of research include Developmental Genetics,
>>>> Theoretical Biology, Evolution, and the Origin of Life. He was
>>>> awarded the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Fellowship
>>>> and The Herbert A. Simon Award.
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>>>> Beyond Reductionism: Reinventing the Sacred
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>>>> Stuart Kauffman
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>>>> Abstract
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>>>> "We have lived under the hegemony of the reductionistic scientific worldview
>>>> since Galileo, Newton, and Laplace. In this view, the universe is meaningless,
>>>> as Stephen Weinberg famously said, and organisms and a court of law are "nothing
>>>> but" particles in morion. This scientific view is inadequate. Physicists are
>>>> beginning to abandon reductionism in favor of emergence. Emergence, both
>>>> epistemological and ontological, embraces the emergence of life and of agency.
>>>> With agency comes meaning, value, and doing, beyond mere happenings. More
>>>> organisms are conscious. None of this violates any laws of physics, but it
>>>> cannot be reduced to physics. Emergence is real, and the tiger chasing the
>>>> gazelle are real parts of the real universe.
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>>>> We live, therefore, in an emergent universe. This emergence often is entirely
>>>> unpredictable beforehand, from the evolution of novel functionalities in
>>>> organisms to the evolution of the economy and human history. We are surrounded
>>>> on all sides by a creativity that cannot even be prestated. Thus we have the
>>>> first glimmerings of a new scientific worldview, beyond reductionism. In our
>>>> universe emergence is real, and there is ceaseless, stunning creativity that has
>>>> given rise to our biosphere, our humanity, and our history. We are partial
>>>> co-creators of this emergent creativity.
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>>>> It is our choice whether we use the God word. I believe it is wise to do so. God
>>>> can be our shared name for the true creativity in the natural universe. Such a
>>>> view invites a new sense of the sacred, as those aspects of the creativity in
>>>> the universe that we deem worthy of holding sacred. We are not logically forced
>>>> to this view. Yet a global civilization, hopefully persistently diverse and
>>>> creative, is emerging. I believe we need a shared view of God, a fully natural
>>>> God, to orient our lives. We need a shared view of the sacred that is open to
>>>> slow evolution, because rigidity in our view of the sacred violates how our most
>>>> precious values evolve and invites ethical hegemony. We need a shared global
>>>> ethic beyond our materialism. I believe a sense of God as the natural, awesome
>>>> creativity in the universe can help us construct the sacred and a global ethic
>>>> to help shape the global civilization toward what we choose with the best of our
>>>> limited wisdom."
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>>>> limited wisdom.
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>>> It is well enough mainstream accepted that there has been a good God
>>> and a bad God.
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>>> The well educated and otherwise technologically informed Cathars were
>>> among the few trying their best intensions at keeping us in tune or
>>> focused upon what a good God would have liked of us humans to strive
>>> for.
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>>> Obviously the Roman Catholic bad God knew how to kick serious butt,
>>> and their Pope (aka commander and chief faith-based moron of that era)
>>> did just that, setting up an example that clearly impressed Hitler,
>>> and not otherwise having gone unnoticed by his white skinned Zionist
>>> puppet masters as having a global domination plan of their very own.
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>>> Hitler and of his physics and science company of Zionist goons plus
>>> countless servitude minions treated those of their concentration camps
>>> better off than rabbi Saul and Deco has treated far too many within
>>> Usenet/newsgroups, and yet folks like Stuart Kauffman and yourself so
>>> often keep entertaining our resident republican Godfather perverts as
>>> though they are even slightly human.
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>>> One thing for certain, your Eden should have no accommodations for the
>>> likes of rabbi Saul unless given preferential status by way of
>>> yourself. Do you really want the likes of Saul and other pretend-
>>> Atheists as intellectual predatory perverts in your Eden?
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>>> ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG
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>> KOOK FIGHT! KOOK FIGHT!!!
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>> -- cary
>
> Is your face stuck in your zipper? (apparently so)
No. Because here I am at work.
Whereas if I could do that, I'd never leave my room.
-- cary